On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 08:51:51AM +0100, Jens Seidel wrote:
> I'm curious: How many people do you expect to become familiar with a new
> system?
I'm already somewhat familiar with SCons now. I started using it for new
(smaller) projects, mostly c++ plus some code generation during the build.
A b
SilverTree does have a scons build (at least for unix and
windows/mingw): http://silvertree.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SConstruct
So that way, everyone can have a glimpse what a build script
comparable to Wesnoth would look like. What should be noted, this
single script builds both game and editor w
allefant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> SilverTree does have a scons build (at least for unix and
> windows/mingw): http://silvertree.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SConstruct
Thanks! I can copy several of those tests into the scons build for Wesnoth
I'm putting together (see SConstruct in the root directory).
On Jan 25, 2008 5:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Problems with particular build scripts are also less likely to get
> noticed. If you don't have someone who knows all of the build systems in use,
> you have to have different people modify them for new additions and I suspect
Am Freitag 25 Januar 2008 schrieb Eric S. Raymond:
> What's different today is that autotools has gotten to be a worse and
> worse tarpit over time. Thus, its challengers have a better competitive
> position today then they did back when they were less mature and
> autotools was less encrusted.
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David Philippi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think you'll find lots of arguments against any system. I've seen lots of
> different systems appear over the years and vanish again. The dominance of
> autotools never got a real challenge...
I think it's getting one now. A few years back I thought scons
Am Freitag 25 Januar 2008 schrieb Martin Renold:
> I've been looking for arguments against SCons a bit. There are. It looks
> like SCons did really fall hard when the KDE project tried to use it:
I think you'll find lots of arguments against any system. I've seen lots of
different systems appear
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Please announce when it is ready to use with some minimal instructions.
> I do lots (over one a day on average) of builds from source of Wesnoth trunk
> on
> Fedora and would like to try testing what will probably be the new build
> system.
I'll do that.
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allefant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Indeed. Instead of one system working good, there are multiple
> half-working ones (e.g. in my case, I maintain the scons build, so
> it's almost untested for Windows with VC and for OSX).
I think we'll probably end up scrapping that one in favor of a single
cross-p
Martin Renold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm already somewhat familiar with SCons now.
That's good, because I'm just learning it now. It will be useful to have
someone else on the project who understands it.
Please have a look at SConstruct in the root directory, which is me
trying learn scons by tr
David Philippi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There are new versions of autotools from time to time, I wonder wheter they
> don't add new nice features most people don't know anything about...
They add new macros and tests, sure. The problem is that the
underlying architecture of autotools is so bad, an
Martin Renold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've been looking for arguments against SCons a bit. There are. It looks
> like SCons did really fall hard when the KDE project tried to use it:
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/188693/ (long article but insightful)
>
> At the end of the WAF manual (pdf) there is a
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 13:47:55 +0100,
allefant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3) Maintaining more than one build system is stupid, it doubles (or in
> the case of that project, triples) the amount of work :P
Problems with particular build scripts are also less likely to get
noticed. If you don't
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> (Our release manager is going to need to learn scons too. Alas I
> suspect Ivanovic still carrying a bit of a torch for cmake...so sad,
> too bad.)
I've been looking for arguments against SCons a bit. There are. It looks
like SCon
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 13:18:00 -0500,
"Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There are a few obvious missing features in scons: environment and
> options dictionaries should be directly accessible via the []
> operator, and I'm puzzled that there's not a built-in
> command-existence
Or, 2008eko Urtren 25a(e)an, Eric S. Raymond(e)k idatzi zuen:
> If the WAF architect is is bright as I suspect he is, WAF is about a
> year of development away from being the best choice in this space,
> with a good shot at overtaking scons in deployments once it matures.
> But that year has not ha
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