Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-06 Thread BPnwn
Eelco Hillenius wrote: > > I've never worked with T myself, but read a book on it and browsed > through the source code. The funny thing is that I was about to start > a proof of concept in it for the company I worked for three years ago. > But Johan just got out of a project that used it, and e

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I am definitely going to check out 1.3. Any idea when it will become > less of a "moving target"? In a couple of weeks. Basically when all the items listed here http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Backporting+features+from+trunk are backported. We'll announce it on the list when t

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-06 Thread Weaver, Scott
4 PM > To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation > > Right, it should, but if you are not using sticky sessions, the path > where serialized pages are stored must be accessible from all nodes. > > -Matej > > On 4/5/07, Eelco Hillen

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> In this comparison thread, I've heard Tapestry mentioned, but has > anyone compared it to Rife? I am also in the middle of the framework > shopping game, and honestly, it's no fun. Rife is very different from most frameworks. It's XML heavy and flow oriented and has 'continuations' as one of it'

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
In this comparison thread, I've heard Tapestry mentioned, but has anyone compared it to Rife? I am also in the middle of the framework shopping game, and honestly, it's no fun. Jeremy On Apr 5, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Eelco Hillenius wrote: > On 4/5/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ri

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 4/5/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, it should, but if you are not using sticky sessions, the path > where serialized pages are stored must be accessible from all nodes. Yeah, and a clustered environment. Or use a database instead of the file system. Would be nice to have tha

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Matej Knopp
Right, it should, but if you are not using sticky sessions, the path where serialized pages are stored must be accessible from all nodes. -Matej On 4/5/07, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would love nothing more than to have Wicket as the "de facto" where I > > work. Unfortunate

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I would love nothing more than to have Wicket as the "de facto" where I > work. Unfortunately, the application server admin is somewhat worried > about the amount of heap space my app uses. I am working at profiling > the app to see where the real issue lies. Unfortunately, it has been > almos

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Weaver, Scott
AIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wicket-user- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martijn Dashorst > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:45 PM > To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation > > On 4/5/07, Weaver, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> several of the .net guys look envious at wicket (especially those that > have worked with it). Yeah. I used to work for that company Martijn works for. From what I've seen, I think Wicket saved Java in that company, as people really were starting to get tired of Struts/ Maverick/ model 2. Eelco

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I have never heard any first-hand accounts of Tapestry being all that great > to work with. I have never used it myself, but I have a couple of buddies > that work at a company that develops management software for doctors. They > are in the process of re-writing one of the web apps from the gr

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/5/07, Weaver, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are in the process of re-writing one of the web apps from the ground up > using Tapestry and all I hear is what a nightmare Tapestry is to work with. I don't suppose they hear any great stories about Wicket from you? :) Related to the top

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread Weaver, Scott
-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation We are currently evaluating GWT, Tapestry and Wicket for our company. We would like to pick one that we can standardize on for the entire company to build all of our new web products on going forward. I managed to get Wick

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-05 Thread ZedroS Schwart
Hi I was myself looking for a web framework and I've looked at both Tapestry and Wicket, so I'll quickly give my feeling : - Tapestry development team switch from major version to major version without providing a clear migration path for the user. As such, on Tapestry forums, you got questions of

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Julian Klappenbach
One strong consideration four our research into using Wicket as the standard UI framework for our open source projects is the very workflow of our company. We have a well defined and capable UX team, who design the interfaces for our applications. Their deliverables include wireframes and html mo

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 4/4/07, Richard Hogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for all the info. I've been in the Swing world for 10 years and > need to come up to speed on the alphabet soup of the Web World in a few > scant weeks ;-) My knowledge of Ajax is, shall we say, a bit sparse... > > Wicket and GWT seem to

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Richard Hogue
Thanks for all the info. I've been in the Swing world for 10 years and need to come up to speed on the alphabet soup of the Web World in a few scant weeks ;-) My knowledge of Ajax is, shall we say, a bit sparse... Wicket and GWT seem to be the most swing-like, and they are both easy to become prod

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius
And here's one opinion: http://www.nabble.com/-Wicket-user--ajax-libraries---wicket-tf3191437.html#a8870490 Eelco On 4/4/07, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I have some questions that I hope people can answer, or at least point > > me in > > the right direction to look for the

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> So, I have some questions that I hope people can answer, or at least point me > in > the right direction to look for the answers ;-) I am currently working with > Wicket 1.2.5… Wicket 1.3 is much improved, so if you don't mind working on a development branch that'll be better. > I have found c

Re: [Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread Matej Knopp
Hi > > I have found comparisons between Wicket and Tapestry (and JSF), but none > between Wicket and GWT. Are there any out there? Not that I know about. But when evaluating GWT, just don't miss one fact: No site made by GWT will be crawled by google or any other crawlers. > When using GWT, you

[Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread xrogue
We are currently evaluating GWT, Tapestry and Wicket for our company. We would like to pick one that we can standardize on for the entire company to build all of our new web products on going forward. I managed to get Wicket to Round 2 ;-), but our architects have some lingering concerns that I

[Wicket-user] Framework Evaluation

2007-04-04 Thread xrogue
We are currently evaluating GWT, Tapestry and Wicket for our company. We would like to pick one that we can standardize on for the entire company to build all of our new web products on going forward. I managed to get Wicket to Round 2 ;-), but our architects have some lingering concerns that I