Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket CMS

2006-12-04 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
Hi all, We've done the first commit of the code for the Wicket-cms named Kronos. If you want you can get it from the Wicket-stuff svn in the directory /branches/WICKET_1_2/wicket-kronos-cms The first time that the application is run it will take a while, because the repository has to be made.

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket CMS

2006-12-01 Thread Johannes Fahrenkrug
I'd also love to see some code and I'd like to offer my help, because I'm working on a new Wicket project and was already looking for a Java CMS that I could integrate into my project a Wicket CMS would be a perfect fit! - Johannes Ted Roeloffzen wrote: Hi all, As some of you may

[Wicket-user] Wicket CMS

2006-11-30 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
Hi all, As some of you may know, we're currently working on a Wicket CMS. We have begun with implementing the code and very soon we'll put what we have so far on wicket-stuff. We still hope that there are some among you who are willing to help. If so, don't hesitate to ask. Ted Rick

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket CMS

2006-11-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I think that would work best if you start adding your code to a project asap, and then start discussions on development/ usability aspects based on that. In other words: looking forward to see some code :) Eelco On 11/30/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, As some of you may

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-26 Thread glanzel
Hi I would strongly recommend a version with wicket templates. Wouldn't it be the most important reasons for using a Wicket CMS that you don't have to deal with any scripting language but plain html ? So I would prefer Number 2 (use Wicket templates, but create additional, CMS specific

[Wicket-user] Wicket CMS

2006-10-20 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
Here are a few suggestions to start out with. You can repost on the list if you want.I would say you should break this project up into 2 parts, like how I did for wicket-cms. wicket-cms and wicket-cms-example This will create a very modular design so others can reuse wicket-cms in their own

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Perhaps we need to define the problem better... A typical article has an author, date written, date last modified, tags, content, summary, keywords, title, subtitle, etc. Some people like to show everything on their blogs, so you get in a Wicket template: div wicket:id=article h1

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-11 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
The reason that Joomla and Drupal are so popular is that it is relatively easy to make custom templates and modules. But when we use Wicket and Velocity, it becomes a little too difficult for a normal user. Someone who has little or no programming experience. Then there is another problem. Wicket

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-11 Thread Matej Knopp
The part where wicket would really shine is the part of application where you manage content, etc. For the part where you show the content, I'd consider multiple approaches. You definitely need different templating engine (like freemarker), or maybe some scripting language. I'm not sure that

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-11 Thread middledot
I don't know but if you want a powerful scripting language then you should look at JRuby. If however you are concerned about users, then you could do it entiry using JavaScript. In fact that might open the door for a numer of widgets already in the public domain, yui being one of them. Les

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-11 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
But how could you establish a connection between the _javascript_ and the java code from the CMS?On 10/11/06, middledot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I don't know but if you want a powerful scripting language then you should look at JRuby.If however you are concerned about users, then you could do it

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-11 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 10/11/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how could you establish a connection between the javascript and the java code from the CMS? That's the stuff you'll be learning! :) Rhino, JRuby, Jython, etc, all have excellent Java integration. By the time you get there, you'll figure

[Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-10 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
hello all,Some of you may know that we're working on a Wicket-CMS as our grad project. We've been thinking about the use of templates. About how we are going to let people create their own templates. As we saw in Drupal and Joomla, there templates are full of PHP-code. If we're going to do the

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-10 Thread Gwyn Evans
My inclination would be to do as much as you can via CSS, but if you need to add scripting, I'd (a) go with Jython (b) make a major effort on examples documentation! /Gwyn On 10/10/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello all, Some of you may know that we're working on a Wicket-CMS

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-10 Thread Nick Heudecker
What about using Velocity templates for markup?On 10/10/06, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My inclination would be to do as much as you can via CSS, but if youneed to add scripting, I'd (a) go with Jython (b) make a major effort on examples documentation!/GwynOn 10/10/06, Ted Roeloffzen

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-10 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
We've never used that. Are there any examples available when using it with Wicket? On 10/10/06, Nick Heudecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about using Velocity templates for markup? On 10/10/06, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My inclination would be to do as much as you can via CSS, but

Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket-CMS Templates

2006-10-10 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Yep. Look at the wicket-velocity-contrib and wicket-contrib-examples in wicket-stuff. Eelco On 10/10/06, Ted Roeloffzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've never used that. Are there any examples available when using it with Wicket? On 10/10/06, Nick Heudecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What

[Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-09-25 Thread Ted Roeloffzen
Hello all,As some of you may or may not know, we are the two student who are currently working on our grad project. Our assigment is to create a full-blown CMS for Wicket or at least some components. I was reading some old mails from the mailinglist and a lot of people had ideas and suggestions

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Igor Vaynberg
why not use a dao layer to abstract the persistence - that way it can also be pluggablefor light weight deployments even saving to filesystem might be enough-IgorOn 8/29/06, Troy MacNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JackRabbit looks very interesting, I'll have to download and play withit. I'm not

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Sure. What I mean by planning for it, is that people could at least take a look at what you'd need for jsr170 so that you don't design that layer in such a fashion that it shuts you out from jsr170 in the future. Eelco On 8/29/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use a dao layer

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Though... in this case you might even argue that directly using jsr170 is just perfect as it is an abstraction for storage itself. Why add another layer to something that is already specced and pluggable. Eelco On 8/30/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. What I mean by planning

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Igor Vaynberg: why not use a dao layer to abstract the persistence - that way it can also be pluggable JCR and Jackrabbit rock, I've been using it with Cocoon, and it's great. However I don't think it's a good idea to have an abstraction of the persistence, because: 1) JCR is already an

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Philip A. Chapman
I would be willing to help work on such a project. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18 -0300, Alexandre Bairos wrote: Im also interested. Definitely it would be great to coordinate efforts. On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh, wicket seems like

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Igor Vaynberg
you mean you already finished bugme and bugeater?-IgorOn 8/29/06, Philip A. Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be willing to help work on such a project. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18 -0300, Alexandre Bairos wrote: I´m also interested. Definitely it would be great to

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Philip A. Chapman
Bugeater, is very usable, but could still still be improved, I am sure. I have a few ideas, but am just rolling them around in my head for now. Bugme has stalled. A few friends and I got busy and it's just layed there. I think it'd still be great to get going. CMS is something that I have been

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Troy MacNeil
I'm also interested, I've been putting of a similar project for a while now and a group effort may help me put the lazy days of Summer behind me:) On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 13:16 -0500, Philip A. Chapman wrote: I would be willing to help work on such a project. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 19:18

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Erik Brakkee
CMS is something that I have been very interested in. I'd love to have such a thing, but have avoided building one myself because, as you say, I do have other projects that I work on. Starting up a CMS by myself would take more time than I could give. But to collaborate on a CMS with

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Hugh Willson
Hi all! I would also be interested in helping out with a Wicket based CMS solution. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, but haven't really made it too far on my own due to time constraints. It's seems like this is a common problem with others, so I definitely like the idea of pooling

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I intend to write a comments component for my application anyway (because I need it), so that could serve as a starting point for further discussions. Or, slightly rephrased, how do we start? It should start like: 1) someone should take the lead; 2) start defining use cases, and preferably an

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Of cource, we wait for our two students to arrive... I'll try to get them involved earlier though, but their contract only starts next week. Martijn On 8/29/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to write a comments component for my application anyway (because I need it), so

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Justin Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Throw in JSR-170 in the mix and have some fun... Troy MacNeil wrote: De-lurking twice in one day, rare indeed;) I'm very much in favour of the toolkit with a capable sample application approach though. When I've used PHP I've found that

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/29/06, Troy MacNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: De-lurking twice in one day, rare indeed;) I'm very much in favour of the toolkit with a capable sample application approach though. When I've used PHP I've found that the concept of a plug-in for a PHP CMS is very informal and undefined. If

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
4) I'm not the greatest standards buff on earth, but in this case, using JSR 170 would make sense imo. http://jackrabbit.apache.org/ looks like a nice implementation of this. Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-29 Thread Troy MacNeil
JackRabbit looks very interesting, I'll have to download and play with it. I'm not convinced it's ideal for every application though, maybe let the plug-in decide what persistence method it wants/needs? Your other points are well taken as well. I assume there will be a lot of rewrites to fix

[Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Erik Brakkee
Hi, I am considering to develop reusable Content Management System like components for polls, comments, blogs, news items, frequently asked questions, and links. Each component would have an interface for users and administrators. Access for regular users would be restricted to certain roles or

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
heh, wicket seems like /the/ framework for writing cms :)there has been a lot of talk but not a whole lot of action.i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch with the authora few students from Topicus are going to write one as a grad project - martijn has more

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Alexandre Bairos
I´m also interested. Definitely it would be great to coordinate efforts.On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:heh, wicket seems like /the/ framework for writing cms :) there has been a lot of talk but not a whole lot of action.i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Eelco Hillenius
i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch with the author Here's the blog http://www.octonary.com/blog/ sounds like we need to pull the efforts together on this one since there are so many ppl interested. I'd be interested in helping out here and there

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Eelco Hillenius wrote: i found this: http://code.google.com/p/cms12/ you might want to get in touch with the author Here's the blog http://www.octonary.com/blog/ sounds like we need to pull the efforts together on this one since there are so many ppl interested. I'd be interested in

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Gustavo Santucho
real-time pluggable bundles Or the Netbeans Runtime Container. http://dvbcentral.sourceforge.net/netbeans-runtime.html - Gustavo. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Igor Vaynberg
i know apache felix (osgi r4/5?) people have done some integration work with wicket.-IgorOn 8/28/06, Gustavo Santucho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: real-time pluggable bundlesOr the Netbeans Runtime Container.

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket CMS type components...

2006-08-28 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Several. For instance http://wiki.ops4j.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=pax:wicket-basics. Read more on http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/OSGi (don't know how up-to-date that is, we had a couple of improvements for classloading the last few versions). Eelco On 8/28/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL