Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Jack Park
This sounds right to me. I suspect this might be the first time I posted here, but Stuart's comment makes sense. There really are several entities, such as the activities of Paul Allen's institute's work in AI and scholarship; but, if Wikipedia is to tie in with these cc-by research documents, it s

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Timothy Wood
Well, we do have some things going for us that they might not, like a translation regime. But I wouldn't pretend to know half of the functionality that we can actually provide given that the papers are properly integrated into Wikidata. On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:25 PM Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > G

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Given that there are organisations already organised, funded and operating to preserve and promote open-access research, we might want to think about focusing on getting deep interoperability with them, rather than sucking all the content into Wikisource, where we can't provide half the functionali

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Timothy Wood
This looks like a job for Wikisource. If nothing else, so long as we can verify their CC licensing is compatible, we can archive and preserve them in perpetuity on WS. Unfortunately I've scarcely contributed to WS personally. I've reached out to a WS admin that I know from Commons. When they reply

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 22:36, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 08:29, Alexandre Hocquet wrote: what? then a lot of wikipedia articles should be labelled as {{secondary sources needed}}) Exactly. Sourcing as a whole across wikipedia already relies too heavily on primary sources. I regularly

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 08:29, Alexandre Hocquet wrote: > what? then a lot of wikipedia > articles should be labelled as {{secondary sources needed}}) Exactly. Sourcing as a whole across wikipedia already relies too heavily on primary sources. I regularly tag articles as such. cheers stuart -- .

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 21:56, Leila Zia wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:50 PM Stuart A. Yeates > wrote: Wikipedia is a tertiary source, built from secondary sources. Journal articles which contain innovative research or new contributions are primary sources. Revi

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Leila Zia
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:50 PM Stuart A. Yeates wrote: > Wikipedia is a tertiary source, built from secondary sources. Journal > articles which contain innovative research or new contributions are > primary sources. Review articles are secondary sources. > I need some education here, please: W

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Wikipedia is a tertiary source, built from secondary sources. Journal articles which contain innovative research or new contributions are primary sources. Review articles are secondary sources. The median contribution to wikipedia of most journal articles is going to be nil. Some will contribute d

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
On 17/04/2019 20:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: My point is : as it can be imagined that the number of CC-BY scientific papers will likely sky-rocket in the next years, would not it be relevant to try to organise "CC-BY scientific papers" driven edit-a-thons

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Samuel Klein
A wikisource toolchain for importing articles would be wonderful. There is no equivalent place for public comments, categorization, and dense internal linking across such texts. On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: > > My point is : as

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alexandre Hocquet, 17/04/19 20:40: My point is : as it can be imagined that the number of CC-BY scientific papers will likely sky-rocket in the next years, would not it be relevant to try to organise "CC-BY scientific papers" driven edit-a-thons Importing text and images from freely licensed p

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] April 17 at 11:30 AM PDT, 19:30 UTC

2019-04-17 Thread Janna Layton
The Research Showcase will be starting in about 30 minutes. Topics today are WikiProject and the "Thanks" feature. Info below: On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:57 PM Janna Layton wrote: > Just a reminder that this Showcase will be happening on Wednesday. > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 4:49 PM Janna Layton

[Wiki-research-l] Transferring CC-BY scientific literature into WP

2019-04-17 Thread Alexandre Hocquet
Dear Wikiresearchers, You may be aware that a rising number of scientific publications are published under a CC-BY licence. Roughly describing the politics of academic publishing, one can say that publishers hold on to a very profictable business by paywalling articles, academics tend to pub