Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-29 Thread Byrial Jensen
Den 22-08-2013 11:33, Markus Krötzsch skrev: Hi all, I think one source of confusion here are the overlapping names of property datatypes and datavalue types. Basically, the mapping is as follows right now: [Format: property type = datavalue type occurring in current dumps] 'wikibase-item' =

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-29 Thread Katie Filbert
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Byrial Jensen byr...@vip.cybercity.dkwrote: Den 29-08-2013 11:58, Katie Filbert skrev: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Byrial Jensen byr...@vip.cybercity.dk mailto:byrial@vip.cybercity.**dk byr...@vip.cybercity.dk wrote: I just found that there also

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-29 Thread Byrial Jensen
Den 29-08-2013 14:49, Katie Filbert skrev: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Byrial Jensen byr...@vip.cybercity.dk mailto:byr...@vip.cybercity.dk wrote: Den 29-08-2013 11:58, Katie Filbert skrev: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Byrial Jensen byr...@vip.cybercity.dk

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-26 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 25.08.2013 19:19, schrieb Markus Krötzsch: If we have an IRI DV, considering that URLs are special IRIs, it seems clear that IRI would be the best way of storing them. The best way of storing them really depends on the storage platform. It may be a string or something else. I think the

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-26 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Daniel, if I understand you correctly, you are in favour of equating datavalue types and property types. This would solve indeed the problems at hand. The reason why both kinds of types are distinct in SMW and also in Wikidata is that property types are naturally more extensible than

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-24 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear Hady, On 22/08/13 14:44, Hady elsahar wrote: Hello Markus , thanks for pointing to wda code it's very useful , i guess by looking on the Wikidata glossary property data types and data value types are the same thing : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Datatypes this may be

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-24 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, The situation with commonsMedia is a bit bad because it should be a URL rather than a string. What I do in wda is effectively a type conversion from string to URI in this particular case. Maybe we can fix this somehow in the future when URIs are supported as a value datatype. Ok, this

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi all, I think one source of confusion here are the overlapping names of property datatypes and datavalue types. Basically, the mapping is as follows right now: [Format: property type = datavalue type occurring in current dumps] 'wikibase-item' = 'wikibase-entityid' 'string' = 'string'

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-22 Thread Hady elsahar
Hello Markus , thanks for pointing to wda code it's very useful , i guess by looking on the Wikidata glossary property data types and data value types are the same thing : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Datatypes this may be shallow a little bit , but what i saw is that (correct

[Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-21 Thread Hady elsahar
Hello All , i was looking at WikiData dump , specifically this one : wikidatawiki-20130818-pages-meta-hist-incr.xml.bz2 then i came to this statement 1. { 2. m:[ 3. value, 4. 158, 5. string, 6. Great Seal of the United

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-21 Thread Byrial Jensen
Den 21-08-2013 19:45, Hady elsahar skrev: Hello All , i was looking at WikiData dump , specifically this one : wikidatawiki-20130818-pages-meta-hist-incr.xml.bz2 then i came to this statement the property P158 which is the seal flag image . http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P158 and it's

Re: [Wikidata-l] claims Datatypes inconsistency suspicion

2013-08-21 Thread Byrial Jensen
Den 21-08-2013 21:38, Hady elsahar skrev: Hello Byrial , by taking a look to low level datatypes list : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListDatatypes does representing common media files in strings considered to be an in consistency that will be fixed in the next releases ? or just it will