Hi Andy,
The password isn't a single point of failure in the sense that Jarry and Ed
both had the password and either of them might have become available to publish
hours or days later, but I felt the Signpost was already late, we had enough
material to publish, and waiting another week would m
I asked to the Chilean Undersecretary of Telecommunications in Twitter, and
he confirmed that Wikipedia Zero and the zero-rated programs are not
forbidden in Chile. He said that the criteria applied is based on practices
of providers. [1]
I'm also happy to read that the WMF thinks that Wikipedia Z
Regarding the news from Chile, the QZ article is pretty misleading
regarding the decision taken by the Subtel. I've been talking with some
people that have been more involved in net neutrality discussions in Chile
and they say that the decision doesn't forbid zero-rated programs in
general. It just
https://www.resetthenet.org/
I see EFF, Reddit, FSF in the list of supporting organizations. Why isn't
Wikimedia/Wikipedia part of this?
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On Jun 1, 2014 4:28 PM, "Andy Mabbett" wrote:
>
> I didn't set a deadline for a reply to my question.
OK, fair enough. Sorry if I jumped the gun.
Pete
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On 1 June 2014 23:15, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> Andy, I don't think we're learning anything new here -- the signpost has
> always been produced by volunteers, and has often had a somewhat irregular
> publication schedule.
I wasn't querying any irregualr publication schedule; I was asking why
its see
Andy, I don't think we're learning anything new here -- the signpost has
always been produced by volunteers, and has often had a somewhat irregular
publication schedule.
I think Pine is trying to do his/her best to get through an immediate
challenge, and I'm not sure it's fair to him/her to use th
I have seen little evidence either way.
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On 1 June 2014 11:17, ENWP Pine wrote:
> We need a password for the automated publishing process that we don't have,
> and we're trying to get it. I have been working through some of the
> (complicated and poorly documented) Signpost templates and LivingBot for
> manual publication but there a
I am pretty sure that a "90% wrong" figure would fail an elementary
statistical test of significance...
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:55 PM, James Heilman wrote:
> The journal article by Hasty et al published on May 1st 2014 basically took
> ten Wikipedia articles and ten “researchers” (either medi
Gerard: Labs is not currently considered for zero-rating because it can be
misused. But it may be added over time if we figure out how to work around
that and there is demand for it.
Rupert: Your comment seems unnecessarily hostile to me, but I'm going to
try to assume good faith. I have of course
Hello Everyone,
As Lila officially takes over from Sue as the Executive Director of the
Wikimedia Foundation after this weekend it really is a moment to not only wish
Lila a lot of succes in the coming years, but also to give a tremendous thanks
to Sue for her work in the past years. Of course
The journal article by Hasty et al published on May 1st 2014 basically took
ten Wikipedia articles and ten “researchers” (either medical students or
residents). Each Wikipedia article was then assessed by two of these
researchers to try to determine how many statements of fact they contained.
The f
Hi Jane
I got it. ;-)
I am in a similar situation - as a translator, I sign up to a handful of
mutual help lists. On a daily basis, whatever the cry for help in whatever
language, someone will go to the WP and see what it says there (which of
course is great and great news). If the same article i
I am not disputing that and don't for a second doubt that. ;-)
Down south here in South Africa "interact" would not be understood the way
she meant it.
So, I have learnt two things: that (interacting on WP), and as an
alternative for ;-)
A great week to all
Rui
PS: emoticons would not be a ba
Gerard, Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Rui, I meant "interact" in the sense of "user interface", so to edit
Wikipedia, one must first interact with the edit button, something I
have tried endlessly to get my friends to do. Instead, whenever they
notice something wrong on Wikipedia, they call me
Hoi,
Jane is in my top 1% of most accomplished Wikimedians She is
VERY effective on both Wikipedia, Commons and WIkidata.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 1 June 2014 21:13, Rui Correia wrote:
> Well, from your previous post I was left the distinct impression that
> neither you nor your female friends
Well, from your previous post I was left the distinct impression that
neither you nor your female friends edit the Wikipedia. So I have gone back
and reread your post to see what I missed. I see that you and your friends
"interact". For the life of me I thought that by "interact" you meant go on
th
I'll bet you have never tried to edit Wikipedia on an iPad
2014-06-01 20:25 GMT+02:00, Rui Correia :
> Jane
>
> I think we are talking about two different things. Ownership of or access
> to equipment with access to the internet is not the same thing as we are
> talking about. If anything, the fac
Jane
I think we are talking about two different things. Ownership of or access
to equipment with access to the internet is not the same thing as we are
talking about. If anything, the fact that more women own any such equipment
only goes to reinforce what we already know, which is that not many gi
Interview: Casliber reaches one hundred featured articles
Wikipedia's second featured article centurion
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News and notes: The English Wikipedia's second featured-article centurion; wiki
inventor interviewed on video
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On 1 June 2014 05:53, Ting Chen wrote:
> Hello Risker,
>
> you have my sympathy, and let me tell you this: I am man and programmer,
> and when I edit articles nowaday I tend to ignore the info boxes and the
> templates at the end of each article. If I create a new article and I
> happen don't hav
Today we’re announcing the latest round of Individual Engagement Grantees.
These grants from the Wikimedia Foundation support individuals and small
teams of Wikimedians to experiment with new ideas aimed at having online
impact.[1]
This round, the IEG committee recommended and WMF approved 12 proj
Fyi
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Yana, may i suggest that you try at least one time in your life edit a
wikipedia article so you experience how much bandwith is consumed to do a
proper research of verifyable sources? Or just read an article and try to
verify the contents? Yana, there is only one type of internet, please leave
it u
On 01/06/2014 13:37, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
>>are more common in professions where women are underrepresented.
Why are they underrepresented?
ignotum per ignotius
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On 06/01/2014 07:13 AM, edward wrote:
> Which explains the gender bias, yes?
At least in large part; Risker explained it more eloquently than I.
There is a bias against women because the skillsets currently useful to
be able to edit wikitext (programming, heavy markup languages) are more
common in
"how can you help" yeah, you didn't get. -> "you are not welcome"... I
can't do this kind of things, you can (I think).
Something is going wrong, the community is losing space for a programme
imposed by the WMF to Brazil. And this is not just me that are saying that,
i.e.:
https://meta.wikimedia.o
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Russavia
wrote:
>
>
> I have read the links that you have provided and I find it totally
> unacceptable that an organisation can not provide costs for sending 8
> people on a junket to New York.
>
> When I have operated businesses in the real world, I have been able
On 6/1/14, 11:53 AM, Ting Chen wrote:
And I think it is essential to tell the beginner to do the same: Don't
bother with things that are too complicated, it is the content that
counts.
Yes, I think we need to publicize this more widely. People are usually
surprised when I tell them that as a
I agree with Ting's remarks about the importance of the social aspect.
Maybe we need a taskforce against rudeness. But looking into the social
aspect does not exclude improvements on the tech side.
I think that maybe instead of VE we should have an 'invisible editor',
meaning that if someone hits
On 01/06/2014 12:00, Peter Southwood wrote:
Phototypesetters were typically professionals, therefore not strictly
comparable.
There is a significant difference to learning a complex system because you are
going to earn a living from it, and learning the same system so you can spend
your free
Phototypesetters were typically professionals, therefore not strictly
comparable.
There is a significant difference to learning a complex system because you are
going to earn a living from it, and learning the same system so you can spend
your free time doing unpaid work with it.
Cheers,
Peter
Hoi,
No need to drop dead. What I want you to take is more positive role, I said
as much.. I want you to try the role of an elder statesman.. Their
influence is because of their positive comments and their insight and help
move things forward smoothly.
You may try to assume you had a humble role b
On 01/06/2014 10:53, Ting Chen wrote:
>>Nowaday Wikipedia articles (across all major languages) are highly
biased in style and in content to academic thesis.
There is good reason for this: 'anyone can edit'. In an encyclopedia
produced using the 'one best way' approach, there is sparse use of
Fæ, 01/06/2014 07:39:
As someone who has run editathons on women focused topics, I found
this an odd comment that does not match anecdotal experience. New
women users seem little different to men
I, too, failed to see any difference in dozens (mainly female)
librarians editing, when watching t
Hi all,
Our usual Signpost publisher and Editor-in-Chief, The_ed17, has very limited
internet access. Tony and I have finished content for the May 28th Signpost but
we can't work out the technical details of the publication process. We need a
password for the automated publishing process that w
On 1 June 2014 10:53, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> charge and let others get on where you stopped being the "big" man ?
I was never the "big man". I have only ever been an unpaid volunteer
like everyone else.
> is a Dutch proverb.. "you attempt to rule from the grave" and people think
I am not goin
Hoi,
There are two types of cost. There is money and there is attention to
people. As far as I am concerned you are a previous big shot of the English
chapter and you did not get your way in everything or things moved on.
Apparently you have a big problem with that because you can not leave off.
Yo
Hello Risker,
you have my sympathy, and let me tell you this: I am man and programmer,
and when I edit articles nowaday I tend to ignore the info boxes and the
templates at the end of each article. If I create a new article and I
happen don't have a similar article with the templates and infob
Congratulations Wikimedia Ukraine..
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Tanweer Morshed
wrote:
> Congratulations to Wikimedia Ukraine on achieving the milestones. You've
Congratulations to Wikimedia Ukraine on achieving the milestones. You've
got too many great milestones for celebration!
Regards,
Tanweer Morshed
Board member
Wikimedia Bangladesh
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jon Davies
wrote:
> Well done!
>
>
> On 31 May 2014 22:21, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrot
Fae,
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Fæ wrote:
> On 2 April 2014 16:12, Jon Davies wrote:
> ...
> > This could help reduce costs and avoid any duplication?
>
> I can now confirm that Wikimedia UK is not going to make a public
> report of the total costs of sending 8 people to the Wikimedia
> C
On 1 June 2014 03:40, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
> On 05/31/2014 08:27 PM, James Salsman wrote:
>> Individual editors' skill with wikitext should be independent of
>> almost all of the systemic biases from which we suffer [...]
> Seriously?
> I have (non-CS) engineer friends that, upon hitting tha
Well done!
On 31 May 2014 22:21, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
> Indeed, congratulations on achieving these milestones!
>
> It is great to know that even in these turbulent times you are managing to
> reach new goals and have a positive effect! Sometimes in the bigger picture
> these seem like smal
Hoi,
Yana you mentioned that all WMF projects may become under the "zero"
flag... is Labs being considered for this as well ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 1 June 2014 09:57, Yana Welinder wrote:
> As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile is
> very unfortunate.[1] It's
As the Quartz article from Jens's email discusses, the decision in Chile is
very unfortunate.[1] It's an example of when net neutrality — which is an
important principle for the free and open internet — is poorly implemented
to prevent free dissemination of knowledge. Although Wikipedia Zero is not
Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my personal circle of
female friends, most of them only interact with a smartphone or tablet
and though they may own a full-fledged computer, they only interact
with that machine for certain boring and obligatory tasks such as
filing taxes and printing. T
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