Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am getting so pissed off. Let us be realistic. The user experience sucks ... It sucks big time and even though the community is comfortable with it, it impedes the use by the people we do it all for. They are the READERS.. they are not the editors and the least this is done for are the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Pine W
Gerard, I believe that the disputes about MediaViewer are mostly about the desktop platform's version, as most editors use the desktop platform to edit. In general terms, I have yet to hear someone say that the Mobile platform is a low development priority. I am familiar with Mobile-l. Mobile

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: how should this be solved? To me it's saying that no matter who is informed, the WMF can never expect that their work won't be overruled. That is problematic (regardless of who has the final authority) A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am afraid you do not get the point. The point is that the desktop as we know it is our history. It is like the Dodo; something that is best experienced in the museum to be replaced by something contemporary in the real world. The development of a single UI is what you should consider and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, David, who is the community and how do you get members of the community recognise and respect the decisions it does not like that are taken on their behalf by its representatives. We do not have one community, we have many. The interests people aim for are diverse and all too often

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Todd Allen
Gerard, I don't think anyone is insisting on the status quo. But we do expect that improvements be, well, better than what they improve. Breaking attribution for our media files, or hiding it by requiring a click, is not an improvement. The people who created and uploaded that media deserve their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Coming to a wiki near you

2014-08-15 Thread Dan Garry
On 15 August 2014 06:08, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: Developing for mobile is nice and should continue, but desktop is far from dead. I don't even try to edit from mobile; I want my real keyboard and monitor, not the crappy on screen one and 3 display. This is a false dilemma. The