Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation forward

Hi Siko El 06/10/2015 a las 01:11 a.m., Siko Bouterse escribió: Hi folks, Just letting you know that I’m reading the recent Wikimania-focused mailing list threads with interest, as the Community Resources team is now on-point for funding and coordinating WMF’s involvement in Wikimania. A coupl

[Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

This has been going on for three days, yet not one person involved in this decision has take a moment to reachout personally to the people who worked on bids, They have tabled justifications on list discussions, they have changed the status of Meta pages but not once have they given anyone the cour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Everyone knows that when bidding there is a lot of work to be done that may not produce your desired result, its also common for there to be multiple bids. Something that is being missed is that the bidding process isnt a waste of effort, in creating a bid you also create contacts and connections

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Marc A. Pelletier wrote: >I, for one, am immensely grateful that you and your team (and Manilla's >just as much) chose to start such a hard endeavor for the community's >benefit! I really wish that communications and timing had been better >so that neither of your teams ended up wasting any effort

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation forward

Hi folks, Just letting you know that I’m reading the recent Wikimania-focused mailing list threads with interest, as the Community Resources team is now on-point for funding and coordinating WMF’s involvement in Wikimania. A couple of first thoughts to share: 1. WMF has learned from past Wikiman

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Spain board

Congratulations to all! Katy On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Richard Symonds < richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Congratulations from all at Wikimedia UK! > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2014-15 Wikimedia Fundraising Report

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2014-15 Wikimedia Fundraising Report

Yes you guessed it, my phone acted weird. Sorry for that Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards, Pavel Richter Mobil: +4915119645755 Twitter: @pavel Blog: blog.pavelrichter.de Von meinem Handy aus verschickt / send from my mobile phone Am 05.10.2015 22:17 schrieb "Pavel Richter" : > aalalaa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2014-15 Wikimedia Fundraising Report

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

El 05/10/2015 a las 04:18 a.m., Josh Lim escribió: Pavel, with all do respect, I HIGHLY doubt there’s anything to celebrate here. +1 While I agree that the Wikimania process is broken, no one would’ve thought that the way we’d go about fixing that process would be handing that process over

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-05 18:16 GMT+02:00 Nathan : > The WCA council was a bureaucratic mess that seemed almost doomed from its > inception. I think the comparison is inapt. > No, there was hardly any "bureaucracy", the problem was that Council members did not met their tasks, did not show up at votings etc. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Hi Marc, > Wiadomość napisana przez Marc A. Pelletier w dniu > 05.10.2015, o godz. 23:03: > > I know that the steering committee contacted our team (tentatively, very > early in the year) in part because they were aware that we were already > fully set to host Wikimania in 2017 with the groundw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Hi Marc, > Wiadomość napisana przez Marc A. Pelletier > w dniu 05.10.2015, o godz. 23:03: > > I know that the steering committee contacted our team (tentatively, very > early in the year) in part because they were aware that we were already > fully set to host Wikimania

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > > I think that this is a very unhappy wording; there is nothing wrong > with the bid or the city by itself. As much as I find the wasted > effort scandalous, it is not the fault of our friends from Montreal. > > About the process of the past

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Absolutely right. And the sentence "The revolution will not be community-approved." is the most stupid thing I ever read. When "the government" make significant changes, it has nothing in common with "a revolution". A revolution starts and is led by "the ordinary people" and is illegal per defi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

> On 15-10-05 05:26 AM, Gnangarra wrote: >> I think we are stuck with Montreal and to change now isnt going address the >> problems this decision has created > I think that this is a very unhappy wording; there is nothing wrong with the bid or the city by itself. As much as I find the wasted effor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

It would be a step called professionalisation, too, if the WMF would use the amount of money they collected and still collecting and pay for writers and content. For sure it would be more professional. But it would not be the Wikipedia project thousands of volunteers work for anymore. And that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

As long as the "cabal" who "took full control" of Wikimania is capable of fully organizing it (or able to set up an organizing team anywhere in the world), I think this is nothing else but a step called: professionalisation. Actually if it works well, it can bring this event to regions and places

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

On 15-10-05 05:26 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > I think we are stuck with Montreal and to change now isnt going address the > problems this decision has created I... am obviously in a delicate situation responding to this thread, and specifically to that particular statement; but I think it's worth sayin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

Am 04.10.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Ilario Valdelli: On 04.10.2015 19:48, Pavel Richter wrote: 2015-10-04 17:42 GMT+02:00 Florence Devouard : Le 04/10/15 16:15, Theo10011 a écrit : Now, beside head rolling... (uh, ouch :)) what do you suggest to fix that ? So, what happened? The Wikimania commit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

I think we are stuck with Montreal and to change now isnt going address the problems this decision has created, no matter how the poor situation thats been created is remedied every outcome will be a poisoned challis. There are measures IMHO that the WMF should take to ensure the people who creat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Spain board

Congratulations from all at Wikimedia UK! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

I would not comment the possibility of the community to manage a Wikimania. The community is the main stakeholder of Wikimedia, and as main stakeholder everything should be focused on the community. In the other hand I really think that the current trend of Wikimania is not *sustainable* neither