Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

GerardM, As much as I agree with you on many things related to Wikimania, your statement about en.wp and USA being “over subsidized” is off base. For the last few years I’ve held my tongue as American applicants get a fraction of 10% of all the funding for Wikimania scholarships. That’s because

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the WMF and the local team will share the costs. Until now Wikimania London didn't published anything: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Budget And also Mexico: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015/Budget

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

2016-02-10 6:06 GMT+01:00 Samuel Klein : > FUDCons Also it is hard to compare Wikimanias with FUDCons as it is a) much smaller (usually bo more than 200 attendees) b) divided by regions - for example in 2015 there were 3 FUDCons (Argentina, India, Spain) and 2 Flocks (NY and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

The US may be too geographically spread out to develop a robust chapter system. We have vibrant chapters in a few dense population areas. Wikimedia District of Columbia is particularly awesome. But for most US editors there isn't a critical mass of editors in some areas. Often we work with with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Seddon joins the Advancement team

Congratulations Seddon! I'm really glad that's worked out, and I'm looking forward to continuing to work with you in your new role. All the best Michael Lisa Gruwell wrote: Hi All- I am happy to announce that Joseph Seddon (User:Seddon) has joined the Advancement team to lead up our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Hi Andrew, *For the last few years I’ve held my tongue as American applicants get a > fraction of 10% of all the funding for Wikimania scholarships.* > Actually you are looking at the old numbers. Both Wikimanias 2015 and 2016 uses a new method of selection. Now, the Global North*[1] *has 25%

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

"We also do not have a strong chapter system" This has always puzzled me, because I am a firm believer in the chapter system, despite its faults and limitations. Isn't it time to address this for the more active areas of the USA? On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Andrew Lih

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Hoi, There is only one argument that I cannot refute about American money. It is American money that gets us the bulk of our funding. The one obvious reason is that the fund-raising is targeting the USA. When money is spend, it is spend predominantly in the USA and targeted for Wikipedia and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > I found this the most interesting part of the recent IdeaLab discussion > about changing the Wikimania framework. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Towards_a_New_Wikimania > > "*The total spend by WMF for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Béria L, Yes, I was heartened to see that the formula had changed in 2015. But the complexity of the algorithm made it hard to discern what the eventual impact and numbers were for US-based editors. If you have good stats on this, I’d appreciate a pointer. Again, I agree that Wikimania should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Hi Wikimedians, The "chapter system" in the US and North America is a work in progress. In addition to the two full regional chapters (New York City - where I am, and Washington, DC), there are also usergroups for the New England, Cascadia/Northwest, and North Carolina Triangle regions, with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

I just want to clarify something. I apologize in advance for being pedantic. In the US the term Latino is also applied to those of us who live in the United States who have cultural and ethnic ties to Latin America. Based on my reading of the selection process those Latinos would not be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Itzik writes: > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the WMF and the local team will share the costs. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Budget > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015/Budget > Maybe I missed something, but it's strange that

[Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement office hour

Hi everyone, The Community Engagement department will be hosting an IRC office hour this Friday, the 12th of February, at 1900 UTC. The topic of this office hour will be the department's recent reorganization and personnel changes, including discussion of what characteristics we should be seeking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

February is a very busy month with record number of events planned through out the United States. Additionally, The Wiki Ed Foundation works with university based education programs including parts of the United States outside regions covered by the U.S. Chapters and User groups. So, although we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Changes to Community Engagement

Thanks, Katie! I'd definitely love to finally make it to a state of the map one of these days; I do think database issues will continue to be an issue for the entire broader movement and I hope Wikimedia will be able to keep working to integrate maps and other structured data in a healthy way.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3

Dear Anna! You have a great talent to inspire people. I can never tell you how much Wikipedia magic I discovered thanks to you. You are a great Wikipedian, a wonderful teacheer and a beautiful person. Hope that we will still have a chance to meet on Wikimedia events. I wish you many great

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

While everyone keeps looking at the cost thats not the question we should be asking, because even if the costs were reduced to 500,000, 100,00 or even 10,000 ​that doesnt reflect the value we get from the in person contacts, the global connections the sharing of experiences, learning of concepts,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3

Oh :( this is so sad. You were such an inspiration for me. Thank you for everything that you have done to help Wikimedians of Albania and for me. All the best for the future <3, I hope to see you again. Many hugs, Greta On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Josh Lim wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

From a US perspective, even here in the global north we have plenty of students and middle-class participants for whom $1500 in travel, food and lodging plus 5 days away from work, family, or school amounts to a significant or impossible sacrifice. Perhaps someone could tell us the statistics for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Hoi, To quote a Wikipedia maxim .. "citation needed". It is one thing to say that something is costly and, it is. It is another to say that Wikimania is expensive. It is expensive when it does not provide a value relative to costs. When you compare with Red Hat, you talk about professional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Seddon joins the Advancement team

Congratulations Seddon! Ti'n seren! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

Hoi, Pine with all due respect, the USA is not the problem and English Wikipedia has been overly subsidised, given way too much attention. Indeed having more people from the USA attend Wikimania is not a good value proposition. The USA and Britain is overrepresented as it is. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

Hi all, to follow up on Maggie's email, I wanted to share that Program Capacity and Learning team is reaching out to community members to comment on our draft roadmap [1]. In this coming year, we look forward to our shared learning and support to leaders across the movement. Importantly, we could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing the net cost of Wikimania

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel wrote: > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the WMF > and the local team will share the costs. > > Until now Wikimania London didn't published anything: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Changes to Community Engagement

Luis, I am very sorry to see you depart, and not only because I accept the blame for the introduction. :-) Thanks for everything you brought to WMF; I look forward to our continued path-crossing in the future. -Kat On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > Hi,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the official announcement

Im curious to see how this might affect Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey, as we are both an education program and an affiliate. > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:19:17 -0800 > From: mc...@wikimedia.org > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the