Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread John Erling Blad
Well, data becomes information becomes knowledge. Information imply organization of data, and knowledge imply processing of information. The description "knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance" is from a dictionary, and I won't tell which one. It is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Probably that is verifiability. On 11 Aug 2017 12:31, "Rogol Domedonfors" wrote: > I'm aware that "knowledge" as a concept has a long history. I would not > have expected the movement to have finally resolved the "problem of > knowledge", whatever that might be, nor did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
I'm aware that "knowledge" as a concept has a long history. I would not have expected the movement to have finally resolved the "problem of knowledge", whatever that might be, nor did I say that I had. I am expressing surprise that there is not yet a common understanding that the movement can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread Richard Farmbrough
The problem of knowledge is much older than Wikipedia. It is part of the reason that so many intelligent people belive things that are "simply not so". On 11 Aug 2017 11:52, "Rogol Domedonfors" wrote: > Is it not rather late to be discussing what "knowledge" might be,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Is it not rather late to be discussing what "knowledge" might be, towards the end of the second decade of a mission to bring the sum of human knowledge to the world, and in the middle of a major effort to determine the strategy of the movement into its third and fourth decades? Surely by now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees appointments and officer positions

2017-08-11 Thread Shani Evenstein
Thanks for the update, Christophe. Wishing the board a productive, fruitful and smooth year! And Happy Wikimania, everyone, especially to all the Wikimedians who couldn't make it this year. So great that we have live-streaming this year (thanks again, Melody & Eddie!) and can participate and

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees appointments and officer positions

2017-08-11 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi everyone, As is customary, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met right before Wikimania and appointed new trustees and elected its officers. This is a rare occasion as I will not need to write a farewell email. The two Board members that were finishing their terms, María and Dariusz,

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost – Volume 13, Issue 7 – 5 August 2017

2017-08-11 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Non-English special edition! 99% no news about English-based wiki communities! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-08-05/News_and_notes Recent research: Wikipedia can increase local tourism by +9%; predicting article quality with deep learning; recent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania] Livestream session links for Friday 11 August

2017-08-11 Thread Michael Jahn
This is great, thank you! --- Michael Jahn Leiter Kommunikation & Partnerschaften Head of Communications & Partnerships Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread Lane Rasberry
This is a great idea! I was really feeling down hearing about how so many people got denied a visa and I did not know how to respond. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:36 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) < viswapra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great gesture and so much re-assuring of the spirit that's called >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
Great gesture and so much re-assuring of the spirit that's called Wikimedia revolution! Kudos! -user:Viswaprabha On 11 August 2017 at 19:02, Chris Keating wrote: > Sounds very sensible! > > Chris > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Andy Mabbett

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread Chris Keating
Sounds very sensible! Chris On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Katherine Maher just announced at Wikimania 2017 that all scholarship > recipients who were unable to obtain a visa, will be automatically > granted a scholarship for Wikimania 2018. >

[Wikimedia-l] Scholarships for people whose visa were declined

2017-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
Katherine Maher just announced at Wikimania 2017 that all scholarship recipients who were unable to obtain a visa, will be automatically granted a scholarship for Wikimania 2018. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania] Livestream session links for Friday 11 August

2017-08-11 Thread Melody Kramer
Hi all, Two keynotes will be livestreamed today. Links are below. *9:00 AM ET/ 6:00 AM PT/ 1:00 PM UTC - 10:30 ET / 7:30 AM PT / 2:30 PM UTC* *Jimmy Wales *, founder of Wikipedia, in conversation with *Gabriella Coleman*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread John Erling Blad
Information is "facts told, heard, or discovered" (Oxford) or "knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance". (I would say data and not knowledge, but knowledge is good enough for this.) If you can't observe the fact or circumstance, and can't communicate the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread John Erling Blad
No, _verifiability_ can't be different, but _acceptance_ of oral sources can be different. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland wrote: > Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources. > > JP > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 05:20 John Erling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

2017-08-11 Thread John Erling Blad
No, the projects are not that different. Actually I believe the claim that they are so very different is counterproductive. Now we can't make common solutions because a few people on *some* project blocks the roll-out. For example, we could make solutions for quality improvement, but some project