[Wikimedia-l] Board approval of the FDC recommendation

2015-12-21 Thread Denny Vrandecic
The financial funding in the FDC recommendation was approved by the Board of Trustees on December 9, 2015. The resolution is available here: < https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_approval_of_FDC_recommendation_(2015-16,_Round_1) > As usual the Board is extremely grateful for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I got asked by a number of people to share my personal opinion, which is set out below, regarding the dismissal of James from the Board. This took me far longer to write than I hoped for, and it was very hard to write. I am not sure if this will change anyone’s mind - in fact, I am afraid that any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandecic
James, all these things that you answered about - being out of process, disruption, ignoring advice - all of these were some of the things you explicitly apologized for just two weeks ago. Those were not my words, those are yours. Seeing you defend these, again, does this mean your apology was no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-12 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Milos, I find a lot in your email to agree with. The Board of the Wikimedia Foundation, in my understanding, is not the top governance body of the Wikimedia movement. It sometimes stands in for that, because we don't have anything better - but its composition and its legal obligations suggest tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-14 Thread Denny Vrandecic
My issue with the current proposal on Meta is that it creates a body which works towards the Board. This is, in my opinion, a fundamental mistake: it perpetuates the idea that the Board is the major governing body of the movement at large. I would very much prefer an independent and strong body t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-14 Thread Denny Vrandecic
No, I think the questions of community representation on the Board and the creation of an independent body able to represent the communities are orthogonal. I do not see anyone suggesting that the Board should not have community representatives. But I see the need for a body representing the commu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Beyond the Board (was: WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google)

2016-01-14 Thread Denny Vrandecic
David, thanks for that perspective. I agree that in theory the Foundation has the power you describe. But it is the same theory that lead to the implementation of Superprotect, and we know how this worked out. I do not think that the use of such a power would be accepted. Or am I wrong? Denny

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia's 15th BD

2016-01-15 Thread Denny Vrandecic
For Wikipedia's 15th birthday I wish that we will move towards thinking how to massively increase the effectivity of each and every single contributor and their reach. I wish us to think how we can, by 2020, create well-sourced, high quality, comprehensive Wikipedias in more than 200 languages, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I find it rather surprising, but I very much find myself in agreement with most what Andreas Kolbe said on this thread. To give a bit more thoughts: I am not terribly worried about current crawlers. But currently, and more in the future, I expect us to provide more complex and this expensive APIs:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread Denny Vrandecic
what we already have thats another. Limiting abusive sources > shouldnt be an issue, but as soon as we start selling access we loose sight > of our mission. > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Denny Vrandecic > > wrote: > > > I find it rather surprising, but I very much find m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

2016-02-19 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Delphine, thank you. Whereas I do not agree with everything you say (but I think those are discussions for another time), I wholeheartedly agree with your insight that the Board as a whole is dumber than its member on average. Thank you for putting this down to words. I would even say, dumber tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Anybody alive?

2016-02-24 Thread Denny Vrandecic
That's exactly what an abducted and then either brainwashed or replaced Lydia would say. This is just getting increasingly suspicious by the minute. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:44 PM Yaroslav M. Blanter >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-24 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Thank you for the diverse input. A few points to Razmy's proposal. I have trouble with suggestions that state "we can ensure diversity by creating regional seats". First, why these regions? What does each region seat represent? Potential readers? Actual readers? Human population at large? Why not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-24 Thread Denny Vrandecic
opriate for the Board of Trustees, but I would love to hear the opinion of others on this. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > Thank you for the diverse input. A few points to Razmy's proposal. > > I have trouble with suggestions that state "we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Thanks to all the answers to my response. I am still reading them, and I probably will not be able to answer to all in a timely manner (I have to work, after all), but I wanted to make a few things clearer, quickly: Milos, I indeed do not care about reelection. And if I have to choose between trut

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
-- Forwarded message -- From: Patricio Lorente Date: Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:50 AM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning To: "wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org" < wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org>, wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear friends,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I wanted to explicitly state that a number of us are reading intensively many of the ideas suggested in a diversity of channels, including this mailing list. We are hearing you. We cannot reply to all of them, as we simply lack the bandwidth. But we are listening. Thank you for your passion.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-26 Thread Denny Vrandecic
In order to avoid misunderstandings, would you please clarify what you mean with "fully vetted"? This term can mean so many different things, and I want to make sure. On Feb 26, 2016 05:32, "Comet styles" wrote: > I was banned on this mailing list last month for pointing out Lila's > incompetency

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

2016-02-29 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I agree as well. On Feb 29, 2016 06:00, "Jimmy Wales" wrote: > On 2/29/16 5:52 AM, Nathan wrote: > > There is a simple and easy way to rectify this: you and the other members > > of the board can honestly and fully describe the circumstances that led > you > > to eject Heilman from the board. I'

[Wikimedia-l] Discourse installation

2016-03-02 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Sorry, I don't know where else to ask - I was thinking of trying out the Discourse installation, and wasn't sure if I should create a new account or if I could just use my SUL credentials? And if the former, wouldn't that later clash when we merge to something like OAuth? __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discourse installation

2016-03-02 Thread Denny Vrandecic
pent to build a bridge between the two. > > For now, with the test, you will need to create a new account. > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Denny Vrandecic > > wrote: > > > Sorry, I don't know where else to ask - I was thinking of trying out the > > Discourse i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using this list to tear people down

2016-03-02 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Thanks. I also got reminded about that a few times, recently. I would love this to be more reflected upon. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > There's a quote popularly attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt: > > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small min

[Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-08 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I exchanged a walk on part in the war for a lead role in the cage. I find myself tied and limited in my actions and projects. In order to avoid the perception or potential for Conflict of Interests I have to act extremely carefully in far too many parts of my life. Instead of being able to pursue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Decentralised Wikipedia

2015-09-23 Thread Denny Vrandecic
To the best of my knowledge, the two leading candidate technologies for a decentralized Wikipedia - git and blockchain - would both not scale to Wikipedia's requirements. (But I am not an expert in distributed technologies, merely looked into these two for exactly this use case.) On Sep 23, 2015 4

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia websites is not accessible almost everywhere in Iran

2015-09-30 Thread Denny Vrandecic
IIRC we used to have the alternative URL https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/ in order to access https://fa.wikinews.org/wiki but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the https switch happened. Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the con

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia websites is not accessible almost everywhere in Iran

2015-09-30 Thread Denny Vrandecic
Oh, thanks for the report. IP blocks suck more than DNS meddling... On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really depend > on domain name. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic >