Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-05-02 Thread James Salsman
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > The one reason why we would pay it is because the industry that prevents > people from finding citations is morally corrupt We need randomized anonymous double blind review for anything like this to be suitable for paid proofreaders. Frankly, the category selecto

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-26 Thread Marco Fossati
pHit:_Wikidata_Statements_Validation_via_References/Midpoint you can find all the updates about the project there. Best, Marco Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:00:43 -0600 From: James Salsman To: "wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org" Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt What is the s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-24 Thread Ricordisamoa
DMCA + BLP = FUD? Pardon my brevity, for my time is best spent adding uncited claims via sockpuppets so that I can get some money once the hunt begins. Il 22/04/2016 18:54, James Salsman ha scritto: How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters funding pilots to have professional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The one reason why we would pay it is because the industry that prevents people from finding citations is morally corrupt. As an industry it prevents researchers from finding sources about their topic of interest. The result is that much research is done over and over again resulting in waste

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:54 AM, James Salsman wrote: > How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters funding pilots to > have professional researchers do https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/en > and a few other main languages? > ​Might I suggest you approach some of these larger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread James Salsman
> > > Gerard Meijssen wrote: Once we, as in the WMF, start paying for content there is no reasonable > argument to pay specific work and not pay for other specific work. I am suggesting a limited experiment by the diverse chapters, not the WMF proper. I don't think it follows that success would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Brion Vibber
On Apr 23, 2016 4:43 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > > Hoi, > Once we, as in the WMF, start paying for content there is no reasonable > argument to pay specific work and not pay for other specific work. Sure there is. Prioritization based on movement goals, feasibility, achieving parity in underse

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Once we, as in the WMF, start paying for content there is no reasonable argument to pay specific work and not pay for other specific work. Why should we pay for additional content in English and not pay for content in other languages? Research is done that may lead to the use of Wikidata for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Brill Lyle
I agree this is not a black and white issue. To depend upon a volunteer workforce to chip away at big picture issues -- especially relating to citations (with the idea that they become systemized and full on integrated with Wikidata in a super user friendly way) -- is (a) impractical and (b) weake

[Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread James Salsman
> > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > ... > I categorically oppose paying people for content. Enabling them to create > content is different. Citations is content and its quality is relevant but > only that. Why categorically? We already pay hundreds of people for work in support of the projects, includ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I categorically oppose paying people for content. Enabling them to create content is different. Citations is content and its quality is relevant but only that. Thanks, GerardM On 22 April 2016 at 18:54, James Salsman wrote: > How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters

[Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-22 Thread James Salsman
How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters funding pilots to have professional researchers do https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/en and a few other main languages? It would be great to measure the quality of results of different payment incentive models and rates, but this is no