Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

So, Fae, it's not someone's obligation to inform about his past, but its the obligation of the other to examine? Ziko 2016-01-22 21:00 GMT+01:00 Fæ : > On 22 January 2016 at 18:46, Ziko van Dijk wrote: >> Hello Fae, >> >> To be very clear, is it that you reproach A.G. that he did not disclose >>

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Hi, Thanks Fae, I agree 100% with that. The biggest mistake is not from A.G., but from the board as you mention. So A. G. resigning won't solve the issue. We need a complete review of the board governance and appointment process. Regards, Yann 2016-01-22 21:00 GMT+01:00 Fæ : > On 22 January 201

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On 22 January 2016 at 18:46, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello Fae, > > To be very clear, is it that you reproach A.G. that he did not disclose > relevant questionable behavior, prior to running as a candidate? > > Kind regards > Ziko TL;DR No, I don't reproach Geshuri personally, everyone makes mista

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Hello Fae, To be very clear, is it that you reproach A.G. that he did not disclose relevant questionable behavior, prior to running as a candidate? Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 2016-01-21 7:08 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: Either the board is completely paralyzed and no more able to make any decision as to what they should do. Or the board has decided not to provide any feedback, which I consider completely disrespectful to the community and unhealthy generally. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Florence Devouard wrote: >I hesitate between two interpretations. Either the board is completely >paralyzed and no more able to make any decision as to what they should >do. Or the board has decided not to provide any feedback, which I >consider completely disrespectful to the community and unhealt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

We are not "seeing movement" by a vague statement of "we're working on it". In the case of James Heilman, they said essentially the same thing. What resulted was a vague statement that used a lot of words to say nothing at all. There needs to be full disclosure and specifics, not a lot of waffle.

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On 01/13/2016 12:00 PM, Fæ wrote: Please make your timetable public, so that the community is reassured that formal communications such as this letter to the board are not a waste of time, and that the WMF chair is not only aware of community concerns but is taking these questions seriously. Th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 01/20/2016 09:36 PM, George Herbert wrote: There was a finding of civil, not criminal, liability in the case. Against the companies as a whole not individuals. Generally such never becomes individual liability or criminality. You're right that we shouldn't expect criminal charges of Geshu

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I decided to support that vote. This has not been an easy decision because I find it *tremendously* painful to vote against a person and it hurts me in my feelings to do so. I hoped very dearly that the board would actually issue a statement that would have helped me understand the decision and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

There was a finding of civil, not criminal, liability in the case. Against the companies as a whole not individuals. Generally such never becomes individual liability or criminality. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Ricordisamoa > wrote: > > Has Arn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Ricordisamoa, I don't believe anybody has said he was convicted of a felony (though there was, briefly, a related inaccuracy on the Meta page). The details are explored pretty well here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri#Geshuri.27s_personal_role -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Has Arnnon been actually convicted of a felony? Where is presumption of innocence? The firing was part of a larger system he seems unlikely to have set up on his own volition. Look at his face https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arnnon_Geshuri_-_January_2016_by_Myleen_Hollero.jpg Il 08/01/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

We are now approaching 2 weeks since the open letter to the Chairman of the WMF board. There has been no formal response, nor any commitment to take action. Consequently a simple open and public vote of confidence for Geshuri's appointment has been created. Link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vo

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Yeah, I kinda expected them to at least acknowledge the issue (which Dariusz did by the way, in his capacity as the chair of the committee responsible for this process) and outline a timeline for a response, or say there will be none. I see Fae wrote a similar email with such surprise. Lets see wh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Dear Patricio Lorente, My open letter to the board was six days ago. Could you please take the following three actions? 1. Acknowledge my open letter sent to you and the board and its request. This is a courtesy I would expect of the WMF board chair that needs no discussion or trustee decision ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 9 January 2016 at 08:22, Lodewijk wrote: > I suspect they need a few days, based on past experiences. To dig into the > matter, and prepare an answer relevant parties can agree on. > > Lodewijk > > They've had a few days. Any further speculation? -- geni ___

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Dariusz, On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > > > I'm investigating with the BGC what went wrong with the whole process (that > some Board members did not have full information) and we're hoping to come > back with learning from this failure, as it was just one point of se

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

I find it amazing – alarming – unbelievable – that some board members knew, and did not tell the others. Andreas On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:27 AM, SarahSV wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak > wrote: > > > > > It was tenth several days ago, in Google.com. unfortunate an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM, SarahSV wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak > we're hoping to come back with learning Dariusz ​, I appreciate that you're responding and trying to find out what happened. > > Sarah​ +1 -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] _

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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > > It was tenth several days ago, in Google.com. unfortunate and silly as it > may sound, it was not in top ten on Google.pl or .de / .it for that matter. > I'm not making excuses, just stating the fact. > > I'm investigating with the BG

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11.01.2016 5:42 PM "SarahSV" napisał(a): > > > But a few days ago Dariusz said on this list that he wasn't aware of the > background of Geshuri's that is causing concern, even though it was fourth > in a Google search for Geshuri's name. It was tenth several days ago, in Google.com. unfortunate a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:42 PM, SarahSV wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Matthew Flaschen < > matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu> wrote: > > > > The board had an obligation to fully research both candidates, and insist > > on more time as needed to do so. > > > > Boryana Dineva, the Foundatio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Matthew Flaschen < matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu> wrote: > The board had an obligation to fully research both candidates, and insist > on more time as needed to do so. > > Boryana Dineva, the Foundation's Vice-President of Human Resources ​, wrote [1] to this maili

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

@NYB: at least one major pension fund has ongoing litigation related to the nonsolicit, so I agree with you Arnnon is unlikely to be able to comment publicly. Best, KG On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > It would be great if we could have Arrnon's input and perspective on > th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Can someone on the Board comment on the Board's general approach to vetting Trustee candidates? I would hope that someone neutral is explicitly responsible for reviewing candidates and providing at least a cursory report to the Board on their background, qualifications, and any potential liabiliti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 01/08/2016 12:43 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Pine W wrote: Dariusz, you said in your statement that was published in the Wikimedia Blog that WMF "considered dozens of candidates from all over the world, with not-for-profit and technology experience, and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

It would be great if we could have Arrnon's input and perspective on the events that have caused the concern raised in this thread. However, it's been stated that major shareholder litigation involving the issue is still pending. If that is so, it is very unlikely that he's going to be able to mak

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

I don't disagree that we need an explanation not only of his actions, but also on how he was selected without this being disclosed to existing trustees, but even at a show trial it's usually considered necessary to allow the accused to say a few words in their own defense. I'll be reserving my jud

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Apologies for a slightly off-topic reply, but: On 01/10/2016 01:21 PM, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > I don't know Mr. Geshuri, have never seen editing him. So i can't > trust him, especially after the google scandal. I don't think board members need to be active editors. The board is supposed to

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a.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in > anticompetitive agreements in Google > > Anders, thank you for your thoughtful message; I understand your position > much better now, and see much to agree with: > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:08 PM, A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Fæ wrote: > Hello everyone, I would like to put out a friendly reminder that good > practice is to keep threads on topic within reason, and to create new > discussion threads for distinct tangents or complete spin off > discussions. > > "Community Tech Team" and "Li

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I think Fae's frustration (and everyone else's) is quite understandable. I understand your concern with keeping the discussion civil, but there does come a time to move from "Please provide more information about this" to "Stop stonewalling and giving nonanswers, and tell us what in the hell is act

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Hey Fae On Sat, Jan 9, 2016, Fæ wrote: > > LOL. > Jeez, this board are complacent beyond the point of incompetence. We > are well overdue for a major turnover of board members. For goodness > sake, what a bunch of clowns we have put in charge of the cash cow. I know there is a good bit of fru

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 12:02 AM, SarahSV wrote: > Do we know who suggested > Arnnon Geshuri > for a board seat? Spoiler: As "trust and honesty" are highly valued, his name likely appeared inside of a list "we compiled in the past". -- Milos ___ Wiki

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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > I do think there are two significant issues with Mr. Geshuri's appointment, > though -- the second of which has not been brought up yet: > (1) The Board did not apparently do basic due diligence in looking into his > background > (2) Mr. Geshu

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Though I'm trying to cut back on the number of posts I make to this list, I want to respond to a couple points made in this thread. First I totally understand - and agree - that we can't expect immediate board comment on Arnnon's appointment. Although I think the degree of the issue should've bee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Anders, thank you for your thoughtful message; I understand your position much better now, and see much to agree with: On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > I used the word Superprotect but could just as well said the disastrous > implementation of Visual Editor, which defin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

I used the word Superprotect but could just as well said the disastrous implementation of Visual Editor, which definitely was not the doing of Lila. And the very positive response to Community Wishlist i have read on this list (and on the talkpages), I have not co,me across any real negative f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Sarah, thanks for the response -- but I find this puzzling. I don't want to get into too many details here, as I think the comment thread on the Signpost op-ed, or the poll on the letter's talk page, are more appropriate venues for that; but briefly: On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:30 PM, SarahSV wrote

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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > > I give Lila 100% credit for this change and thank the Board for > supporting > > this change (and also to have recruited Lila with this as main purpose) > > > > I would have to give this final point a big "citation needed" tag. > > -Pete

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Hi Anders, Your perspective is very different from mine or from any I've heard, and I'd like to understand it better: On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > I also think it would be good to remember that WMF transformation from > the "Superprotect disaster" I do not see th

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There is still a significant problem the Board does have, though. "Chapter/thorg selected seats" are not community seats. And we've recently found out that none of the seats at all are actually considered to be community-selected, and that a community elected board member can be removed without ref

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 9 January 2016 at 10:09, Fæ wrote: > > > > We are well overdue for a major turnover of board members. > Fae > -- > > While I have largely kept out of this thread to this time, this statement needs to be rebutted. There are ten seats on the board. Five of them - all three "community-sel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 9 January 2016 at 17:34, MZMcBride wrote: > I don't think this board has any unhealthy relationship with > Google.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 08:02, 9 January 2016 (UTC) > Source: . LOL. A new WMF trustee was proven in court to have been *ac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

... and the court papers, and the smoking gun documents, and ... This is the sort of thing that needs some serious explaining. Assume good faith, but we're starting from some pretty *startling* circumstances and evidence here. - d. On 9 January 2016 at 09:19, Craig Franklin wrote: > Chris, > >

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Austin Hair wrote: >Having waited two days for any kind of meaningful response from either >the Board or from individual trustees, I have to say that Kat's >comments (unsurprisingly) nailed it. > >I mean, seriously, nobody googled him? Since it doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this thread al

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Hello everyone, I would like to put out a friendly reminder that good practice is to keep threads on topic within reason, and to create new discussion threads for distinct tangents or complete spin off discussions. "Community Tech Team" and "Lila's performance" are interesting, and to be fair they

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Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: >IMO, you should give credit to the Community Tech team. They're the ones >who came up with the wishlist idea and did it, unless I'm totally >mistaken. > >You could also give some credit to the staffers who originally proposed >creating the Community Tech team. It wasn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

ObDisclaimer: This reply consists of my own personal views and in no way represents anything official. I think I can leak a little useful information on this topic without fear. ;) On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > I also think it would be good to remember that WMF tra

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 2016-01-09 13:30, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: Wikimedians can have misunderstandings as well, can't they? (sorry for the offtopic) Sure, but they should have developed a habit of double-checking statements and recognizing which sources are reliable. (getting closer to my January limit on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Wikimedians can have misunderstandings as well, can't they? (sorry for the offtopic) Steinsplitter > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:23:56 +0100 > From: valde...@gmail.com > To: pute...@mccme.ru > CC: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Yes but this list is public. Being in the shoes of an external I would have so much material to do a science fictional romance. Il 09/Gen/2016 13:21, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" ha scritto: > On 2016-01-09 13:14, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > >> Yes but this overlapping generates this kind of misunderstand

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On 2016-01-09 13:14, Ilario Valdelli wrote: Yes but this overlapping generates this kind of misunderstanding. For people being outside wikimedia community there are several changes too much complicated. Il 09/Gen/2016 13:08, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" ha scritto: To be honest, I think people

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Yes but this overlapping generates this kind of misunderstanding. For people being outside wikimedia community there are several changes too much complicated. Il 09/Gen/2016 13:08, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" ha scritto: > On 2016-01-09 12:54, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > >> That James was replaced wit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

On 2016-01-09 12:54, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: That James was replaced with Geshuri, who was involved in a scandal is yet a other scandal. James Heilman was never replaced by Arnnon Geshuri. Arnnon replaced Stu West, and James will be replaced by a to-be-elected community member later this y

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-election. I am highly disappointed . Trust is broken. :-( With best regards, Steinsplitter > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > From: m...@anderswennersten.se > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:12:34 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Very good point Chris. I also think it would be good to remember that WMF transformation from the "Superprotect disaster" to a very much appreciated 2015 Community Wishlist Survey. To go from an "inside-out" to an "outside-in" model in deciding what functionality to develop is a revolution. A

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Having waited two days for any kind of meaningful response from either the Board or from individual trustees, I have to say that Kat's comments (unsurprisingly) nailed it. I mean, seriously, nobody googled him? Austin On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Kat Walsh wrote: > I wish the best for the n

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And more to the point; not knowing is a poor defence. Surely any level of due diligence on new board members would have exposed this troubling incident? Tom On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 09:27 Fæ wrote: > On 9 January 2016 at 09:06, Chris Keating > wrote: > ... > > Dariusz has said the Board is looking i

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On 9 January 2016 at 09:06, Chris Keating wrote: ... > Dariusz has said the Board is looking into the situation with Arnnon, which > they were clearly not aware of - that is what needs to happen and yet more > emails on this list won't mean that happens any more quickly. ... Correction to "they [

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Chris, Thanks for saying that. I'd also add that while the situation with Arrnon looks damning on the face of it, I'm a little disappointed that people are breaking out the pitchforks based purely on media reports, before he has a chance to present his own side of the story and before Dariusz and

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> I suspect they need a few days, based on past experiences. To dig into the > matter, and prepare an answer Quite, and thanks for saying that Lodewijk. In my view, the WMF board's top priority has to be the issues about strategy, leadership and staff morale that are being made public now. It is

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I suspect they need a few days, based on past experiences. To dig into the matter, and prepare an answer relevant parties can agree on. Lodewijk On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:18 AM, geni wrote: > On 8 January 2016 at 22:41, Lodewijk wrote: > > > Maybe here the best is to wait a bit for the WMF to c

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On 8 January 2016 at 22:41, Lodewijk wrote: > Maybe here the best is to wait a bit for the WMF to come with a response, > before piling on - unless you actually have information to contribute. > Pile-on threads seem to lead these days to the original questions being > ignored/forgotten about. > >

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Maybe here the best is to wait a bit for the WMF to come with a response, before piling on - unless you actually have information to contribute. Pile-on threads seem to lead these days to the original questions being ignored/forgotten about. Lodewijk On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Todd Allen w

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Now this is something that's worthy of being dismissed (involuntarily, if necessary) from the WMF board. This individual clearly does not meet our community values of transparency and honesty, or at least such is in serious question. Is the Board considering doing so, or reading this at all? It's

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You'll find the allegations to be true, Dariusz. Although the link provided was just to Pando, the internal email from Arnnon was released by court order - and the entire anti-solicitation fiasco has been fairly widely covered in the US tech news. I knew I recognized Arnnon's name from somewhere,

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Pine W wrote: >> Dariusz, you said in your statement that was published in the Wikimedia >> Blog that WMF "considered dozens of candidates from all over the world, >> with not-for-profit and technology exp

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I wish the best for the new board, and for the movement. But I am troubled to learn of this. I have always welcomed the appointed seats on the board--in my experience they brought useful perspectives and experience with their view from the outside, and I don't expect them all to begin their tenure

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Pine W wrote: > Dariusz, you said in your statement that was published in the Wikimedia > Blog that WMF "considered dozens of candidates from all over the world, > with not-for-profit and technology experience, and the highest professional > standards.” I would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Upon hearing of Arnnon's history at Google, I confess to being surprised to the point of a long silence. If these news reports are true, this is disturbing to say the least. Whether he was happy about it or not, it appears that he chose to participate in illegal activity in a prominent role as a "

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Le 08/01/16 17:43, Kevin Gorman a écrit : I'm going to publicly second (or third, or fifth,) the idea that given Arnnon's role in an incident involving illegal anti-poaching agreements he should either be removed from the board with haste, or the board should publish an incredibly good reason as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

I'm going to publicly second (or third, or fifth,) the idea that given Arnnon's role in an incident involving illegal anti-poaching agreements he should either be removed from the board with haste, or the board should publish an incredibly good reason as to why he should remain on it. Keep in mind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

My apologies. I just noticed the resolutions were in fact added on January 6, 2016.[1] They are dated December 9, 2015. Both appointments were unanimous. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Resolutions&diff=104423&oldid=104354 On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrot

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The resolutions and voting records for these recent appointments have not yet been posted to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions Could the page please be brought up to date? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedi

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016 12:37:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in > anticompetitive agreements in Google > > If it is true what is wroten thre: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri > > ... then i think that Arnnon Geshuri sch

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media.org; wmfbo...@wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in > anticompetitive agreements in Google > > Dear Patricio Lorente, > > You can read a neat summary of Arnnon Geshuri's part in unlawful > activities at Google

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Dear Patricio Lorente, You can read a neat summary of Arnnon Geshuri's part in unlawful activities at Google at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri. This included Geshuri encouraging other organizations to take part in the anticompetitive scheme, and firing Google employees

[Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

Dear Patricio Lorente, I request that the WMF board take immediate action to publish a comprehensive account of why you appointed Geshuri as a trustee, despite his direct involvement and being named as a defendant in the on-going scandal of anticompetitive agreements at Google, or that Geshuri cho