Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hi SJ, thanks. The document is here https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F the table at the bottom, and a short English summary at the very bottom, but the table is still in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > [...] On the Russian Wikivoyage, all of our active partipants produced > a document, to be told by the facilitator that this is not what WMF wants > to see. > This does not strike me as a description of what a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Yaroslav: thanks for these thoughts. Could you link to the RU Voyage document? How was it different from what a facilitator expected? Let's see if we can all make a better central discussion space, and make brainstorming by individual-contributors more satisfying & w/fast feedback loops from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hi Tomasz, may be the Polish Wikipedia is an exception, I do not know. I have the strategy discussions on the English Wikipedia, Wikidata, Meta, and Russian Wikivoyage on my watchlists, and I posted on all of them. On the first three I do not see any discussion happening (and on Wikidata, Szymon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

2017-04-08 12:44 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter : > Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling. > May be we will have another opportunity. > > However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a > failure. > > Why? On at least several

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Yaroslav, What did you wish to see in the Track B discussions that was absent thus far? Have you read the strategy portal? Specifically the process page and the audit of past processes? To doom a process from its beginning stages to failure on an unknown reason is, at least, extremely hasty.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling. May be we will have another opportunity. However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a failure. Cheers Yaroslav On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

I agree with everything Gnangarra said. As I recall, previous strategy discussions on meta involved fewer people later in the game with fewer documents produced than what we have now. That said, I think there was a pretty good representation of chapters at the Berlin conference and depending on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

I was in Berlin and participated in the strategy track for the three days. The process was very open used open space approach such that at the end of days 1 & 2 all I could say is that its been an interesting and thought provoking sessions because that was how the process was running. At the end

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hi Guillaume, the conference of course does not exclude individual participants per se, nor did I ever imply it was in any way planned. However, we saw that the previous Strategy discussion was kept in a dedicated place (the strategy wiki), which attracted everybody who wanted to participate, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hello Yaroslav, I'm not sure I understand how including affiliates excludes individual contributors. There are many avenues for people and groups across the movement to participate on wikis, in person, in video conference, in off-wiki online discussions, etc. Anyone is welcome to contribute in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Just to add to this as someone who (also) was at the conference and participated in a few of the strategy track sessions, it would have been basically impossible to provide any more information than the conference website already provides about what took place at this session beforehand, given the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hello Hajdu, As Chris mentioned, there is a lot of documentation coming from the Wikimedia conference in Berlin. In fact, there is so much documentation that it's going to take the team a few days to digitize and publish everything. You can see some of the notes from related discussions, for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hi Texaner, I don't think everything that WMCON is meant to be a secret! I expect/hope that we'll be hearing more about the WMCON strategy discussions quite soon - after all, WMF is being very proactive about communicating what's going on with the strategy. I can imagine that it takes a little

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2017 versus movement strategy

Hi, There is a very active campaign for strategic conversation defining the future role of Wikimedia in the world. In the last weekend has been hold the Wikimedia Conference 2017 in Berlin. On this conference was a spacial group organized from Representatives for the Movement Strategy