Hi all,
I'm currently putting together a proposal for purchasing tech equipment to
support future events/activities at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Event_Tech
Input on this would be very welcome - please edit the page directly, or leave
comments on the talk page.
In particular, I'm going
On 14 January 2012 22:39, Michael Peel wrote:
> In particular, I'm going to recommend that we purchase a couple of laptops
> this month, for volunteers to use at events/activities/when visiting the
> office (the OTRS workshop last weekend highlighted the need for getting these
> asap). Laptop r
On 14 January 2012 22:39, Michael Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently putting together a proposal for purchasing tech equipment to
> support future events/activities at:
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Event_Tech
> Input on this would be very welcome - please edit the page directly, or le
On 14 Jan 2012, at 22:58, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I don't see the point of buying Windows and then deleting it,
> especially on a machine that is going to be used by lots of different
> people. Pretty much everyone is comfortable using Windows, but a lot
> of people aren't familiar with Linux. If
On 14 Jan 2012, at 23:13, James Forrester wrote:
> On 14 January 2012 22:39, Michael Peel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm currently putting together a proposal for purchasing tech equipment to
>> support future events/activities at:
>> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Event_Tech
>> Input on this
Very well put, Tom.
Harry
From: Thomas Dalton
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2012, 22:58
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Laptop recommendations?
On 14 January 2012 22:39, Michael Peel wrote:
> In particular, I'm going to recom
Yeh, but, a Linux install is likely to last for longer (i.e, before getting
clogged up) if it's being handed around.
+1 for Chrome Book, I think. Seeing as it's just a browser it is braindead
simple to get anyone using, and there is no way for anyone to muck around
with it (well, unless they know
Windoze 7 is a dog, however it should be possible to setup a neat dual
boot with a linux of choice considering that 500gb hard disk. Ubuntu
pretty much does all the work for you from the install disk and you
can then set the default as linux.
For events I don't think we need Windows, but there may
On 14 January 2012 23:15, Michael Peel wrote:
> For context for my position here: I use Mac OS for my laptop, since that has
> all of the benefits of Linux combined with a somewhat nicer user interface.
> Linux is the next best thing, and I use that for my (dell) desktop. I've used
> Windows fo
I gather Chromebooks are basically useless when not connected to t'Internet,
but they'd probably be good for our purposes, since we'd mostly be using them
to get online.
Harry
From: James Forrester
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, 14 Ja
You can run them off-line mode but they (obviously) don't necessairily do a
lot (any website that uses offline storage works - like Gmail etc.).
Pretty much all my day-today surfing/computing is done either on one of
those Chromebooks, or an old laptop with Chromium OS (the unbranded version
of th
On 14 January 2012 23:22, Fae wrote:
Windows is unreliable rubbish and should not be handed to random
people to use. If it is, it should be wiped and reinstalled each time.
(That means "don't".) It's also a virus magnet in any hands less than
expert.
WMF makes Windows available to staff only on
Now there I disagree with you. Windows is used so exclusively because it's the
default on just about every computer you'll buy off the shelf and most people
are either not savvy enough to switch OSs (or even know that they can, never
mind how to), or just can't be bothered. Rather like why so ma
To be honest; for a newbie Windows is absolutely fine and dandy. I have a
W7 install for gaming and other bits that goes just fine :) And Linux is
still too much for the vast majority of people.
But from the chapters perspective you have to think about vulnerability;
and Windows is quite vulnerabl
Can we discuss this on-wiki please? and ideally focus on hardware rather than
software? ;-)
Thanks,
Mike
On 14 Jan 2012, at 23:44, Thomas Morton wrote:
> To be honest; for a newbie Windows is absolutely fine and dandy. I have a W7
> install for gaming and other bits that goes just fine :) And
Hardware is "meh" - anything on the market today will do what you need.
Tom
On 14 January 2012 23:47, Michael Peel wrote:
> Can we discuss this on-wiki please? and ideally focus on hardware rather
> than software? ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 14 Jan 2012, at 23:44, Thomas Morton wrote:
>
> > To
On 14 January 2012 23:44, Thomas Morton wrote:
> Which is why I recommend something like Chromebook - because it's very hard
> to make it do anything else except web browsing.
Do we have anyone with experience of Chromebooks?
We gave the older teen a netbook with Windows. After the second time
On 14 January 2012 23:47, Michael Peel wrote:
> Can we discuss this on-wiki please? and ideally focus on hardware rather than
> software? ;-)
Get a netbook with 3 yr manufacturer's (not shop's) warranty.
- d.
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So far four operating systems have been mentioned, but only one is open
source. I would hope that the trustees would first be looking at Open
source solutions. As for the hardware, can I suggest that we try to be
a little user friendly and get some mice, also a card reader would be cool
- that way
No, no, no, no! We should focus on getting something that WORKS. If it's open
source, that's fantastic, but the thing with mass-market closed-source products
is that they get the job done, and are stable enough and easy enough to use
that you don't have to have serious IT skills to use them.
Ve
Even the open source one would likely end up using closed source stuff;
especially on a laptop. So it's a case of how far to go.
Of course, Richard Stallman uses 100% open source hardware and software -
we could emulate him, but the way he views websites is to email a request
off, which returns th
On 14 January 2012 23:39, David Gerard wrote:
> Really - Windows requires expert administration not to turn into a
> toxic waste dump.
>
That's why, if you are sensible, you have a version controlled VM.
That way, when it goes tits-up, you just rollback to a working
version.
Also, we *so* need t
On 15 January 2012 01:20, Tom Morris wrote:
> Also, we *so* need to get Huggle and AWB ported to Mac/Linux. ;-)
Unlikely, unless you have something that autoconverts .NET to Java or
something for graphical applications. More likely is getting the
requisite bugs in Wine's .NET handling fixed.
On 15 January 2012 01:27, David Gerard wrote:
> On 15 January 2012 01:20, Tom Morris wrote:
>
>> Also, we *so* need to get Huggle and AWB ported to Mac/Linux. ;-)
>
>
> Unlikely, unless you have something that autoconverts .NET to Java or
> something for graphical applications. More likely is get
It seems there is considerable demand for more meetups/events in the midlands,
so I'm pleased to announce that I've finally got round to organising the
first-ever Coventry meetup!
It is to be held in the Litten Tree - a family-friendly pub a short walk from
the station that serves decent food,
Acer makes a decent product at around £300 as I recall which of course
included VAT. Dell makes a decent product starting at £239 excluding
VAT.
Windows 7 works fine and people are familiar with it. As Harry says,
"We should focus on getting something that WORKS". It doesn't need
expert administra
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