Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Telegraph runs story ...

2010-01-02 Thread Brian McNeil
imedia volunteers are carrying out the costly, time-intensive process of digitally restoring them. The Mary Rose pics won't need restored, but Commons offers some interesting "services" to museums. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Des

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Telegraph runs story ...

2010-01-02 Thread Brian McNeil
days. " > > > > Since when? > Important not to believe everything in the papers, isn't it? > > Charles I contacted Stephen Fry's agent but got no response. It may have been bad timing given the holidays, perhaps someone else could try and see if that can

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Press release (Public Domain Day)

2009-12-31 Thread Brian McNeil
f adjusting time based on where people are in the world. :-P -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK "Open" decisions

2009-12-23 Thread Brian McNeil
a couple of clean and uploads they can probably offer some really good advanced tips. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-22 Thread Brian McNeil
o might be interested in this. I'm waiting on a response from the US Copyright Office as to precisely which of Yeats' works will be PD on January 1. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Brian McNeil
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 19:23 +, Charles Matthews wrote: > WMUK list CC Steve Virgin > > Charles Matthews wrote: > > Brian McNeil wrote: > > > >> Stephen Fry reading his favourite Yeats poem anyone? > >> > >> > >> > > Ha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Brian McNeil
ntribute to, any release on this. However, the idea of audiobooks, or even single poems from Yeats, was what caught my eye. I have a sneaking suspicion there's one or two UK celebs could be persuaded to records stuff for Commons; getting a "featured audio"

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Brian McNeil
d - build the membership. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Public_domain_day -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Brian McNeil
an entice notable figures to do readings, spoken Wikibooks would be a good place to target stuff. Who could read Carter's Journals? And the various other pieces now available? Is Yeats one that UK celebs could be convinced to donate spoken versions of to the Commons? -- Brian

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK "Open" decisions

2009-12-20 Thread Brian McNeil
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 00:57 +, Andrew Turvey wrote: > ---- "Brian McNeil" wrote: > > From: "Brian McNeil" > > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2009 00:22:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, > Ireland, Portugal > &g

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK "Open" decisions

2009-12-20 Thread Brian McNeil
quired is one participant running a call recording program. There are some rather fancy and expensive ones on Windows but, the basic one available in Ubuntu is free and works fine. Of course, something freely licensed would be much better. That and me wondering when my membership (now paid) a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Radio 4 - Start The Week (Cross Post with en-wikiL and wikimediaukL)

2009-12-14 Thread Brian McNeil
the UK, used to be. -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its projects. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally s

[Wikimediauk-l] WikiVoices #51 / English Wikinews Writing Contest 2010 - #wikiwednesday

2009-12-09 Thread Brian McNeil
/7F9Cf The "for Wikipedians" Wikinews intro http://enwn.net/197b The "for your friends who might try" Wikinews intro http://enwn.net/6bc42 -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia guide for teachers

2009-12-06 Thread Brian McNeil
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 17:13 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/12/6 Brian McNeil : > > Mmmm? Do you make a habit of telling children aged eleven they can look > > things up on a website with pictures of an adult performing > > autofellatio? > > Personally, I am very sce

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia guide for teachers

2009-12-06 Thread Brian McNeil
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:48 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/12/6 Brian McNeil : > > For the 11-13 range I'd suggest they use Wikipedia for Schools. They can > > install it locally if they like, and actually letting the upper-end > > 15/16 loose on the mediawiki ins

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia guide for teachers

2009-12-06 Thread Brian McNeil
he mediawiki install would be the *perfect* education on how Wikipedia can have false information inserted. -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its project

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia ordered by judge to break confidentiality of contributor"

2009-12-02 Thread Brian McNeil
se guys then... FakeAPStylebook Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair should be referred to as "he" despite being a hermaphroditic alien reptoid. -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-01 Thread Brian McNeil
hat. I disagree about taking out links - most press releases are online now and can (i.e. most do) include inline links. I would have preferred not to touch this, but - for once - I think 4+ years Wikinews experience is useful. ;-) -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-12-01 Thread Brian McNeil
rst draft: > > > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Free_online_news > > Steve Virgin's just rewritten this - any comments on the latest > version? The current plan is to send it out tomorrow morning. I like this new version. Needs a few more eyeballs over it

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Size & Colour of I<3WP logos

2009-12-01 Thread Brian McNeil
ink the volunteers can do better than most pro advertising agencies. It's in the metrics the ad agencies are really good for. -- Brian McNeil |http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Fou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-11-30 Thread Brian McNeil
ead further than that? The rest is assumed to be "We are X", "We're promoting Y", "We have association Z with Y" stuff. -- Brian McNeil http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-11-30 Thread Brian McNeil
out, I promise to take the "be nice" pills for a couple of extra weeks. ;-) -- Brian McNeil http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its projects. signature.asc Descri

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-11-30 Thread Brian McNeil
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:41 +, George D. Watson wrote: > Thomas Dalton wrote: > > 2009/11/30 Brian McNeil : > > > The thought's good, but right now enWN is currently only pushing out > > > about 5 articles a day. > > > > > > Recruitment c

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paying for news

2009-11-30 Thread Brian McNeil
4 hours at the longest). The thought's good, but right now enWN is currently only pushing out about 5 articles a day. Recruitment campaign might be better. -- Brian McNeil http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Help us on Britain loves Wikipedia!

2009-11-29 Thread Brian McNeil
at little video clips for commons if I can borrow some sort of decent vid-cam. -- Brian McNeil http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Would anyone like to talk to Rory Cellan-Jones about the falling number of editors?

2009-11-25 Thread Brian McNeil
cally different criteria for an analysis. > > I've had no other calls/emails from any other media organizations > > about this story. The Press Association are looking for comment. -- Brian McNeil http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] School project

2009-11-12 Thread Brian McNeil
bly dig up contact addresses for Andrew and Mary from *somewhere* in my address book. [1] http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/charity-news/wikipedia-for-schools.htm [2] http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/charity-news/2008-wikipedia-for-schools.htm [3] http://en.wikinews.org/wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Notes from the C&binet Forum

2009-10-27 Thread Brian McNeil
al reward for doing so. The 'industry', on the other hand, has a long and shameful history of assuming they have a right to be paid over and over and over again for exactly the same piece of work. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: this evening, with a different format

2009-10-21 Thread Brian McNeil
just not using the latest version of Skype. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Brian McNeil
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:16 +0100, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Brian McNeil > wrote: > > Arstechnica has a good article relating to this today. Those > > well-entrenched and profiting from creative works have a 100+ year > > history of scaremon

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-20 Thread Brian McNeil
entrenched and profiting from creative works have a 100+ year history of scaremongering and depriving the public domain what they agreed to give it in the first place. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] C&binet Forum

2009-10-19 Thread Brian McNeil
to get out of it? As mentioned earlier, get names, and, I'd add, try to get any press there to mention you were present. -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimedia UK mailing li

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM dates

2009-09-26 Thread brian . mcneil
> From: Michael Peel > On 26 Sep 2009, at 12:52, Al Tally wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:44 PM, wrote: > > > From: Andrew Turvey > > > > > - "Al Tally" wrote: > > > > > > > also, where is it going to be? That's the biggest factor for me. > > > > > > I think the idea was London -

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM dates

2009-09-26 Thread brian . mcneil
> From: Andrew Turvey > - "Al Tally" wrote: > > > also, where is it going to be? That's the biggest factor for me. > > I think the idea was London - Seddon could you confirm? Just a semi-idle question. Once the membership grows somewhat would it be expected that future AGMs would be h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandising

2009-09-14 Thread brian . mcneil
e printing to. Other UK charities can probably give advice on how they handle such issues, and I would assume there is scope for working with other chapters to work out how to best implement various fundraising merchandise ideas. A reason I'd really support the calendar idea is that it fits wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandising

2009-09-14 Thread Brian McNeil
A restriction to "members-only merchandise" is wrong, doubly so with current low membership levels. When you're talking about a 10k+ member base, then I can see a point to members-exclusive merchandise; this complementing a range of items available to the wider public. I'm also against the 'at-cos

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

2009-08-26 Thread Brian McNeil
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions I was merely stating that your logic is flawed. We aren't claiming any ownership of posts to this list, or content ownership. It's just being reposted as a convienience. 2009/8/26 Brian M

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

2009-08-26 Thread Brian McNeil
imediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: 26 August 2009 13:48 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions Under that logic, posting the link is a copyright violation as it does not belong to us. 2009/8/26 Brian McNeil Bot

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

2009-08-26 Thread Brian McNeil
Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a news website's article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright violation. Brian. - Forwarded Message - From: "Andrew Turvey" To: "English Wikipedia" Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:20:00 GMT +

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikinews' article on the National Portrait Gallery threat

2009-07-14 Thread Brian McNeil
Wikinews has its article up for review. It should be published and in Google News pretty much as-is. http://tinyurl.com/WN-NPG It is quote long and mindful of the discussion over the weekend. Brian. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] FW: National Portrait Gallery threat oflegalaction

2009-07-14 Thread Brian McNeil
I think I'd take more issue with their ineptness at trying to get a Wikimedia comment. Nothing from them as far as I'm aware. Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sam Blackete

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] FW: National Portrait Gallery threat of legalaction

2009-07-13 Thread Brian McNeil
kimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brian McNeil Sent: 13 July 2009 18:33 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] FW: National Portrait Gallery threat of legal action Statement from the National Portrait Gallery. -Original Message- From: Eleanor Macnair [mailto:emacn...@np

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Foundation-l] "sue and be damned" FOI to NPG

2009-07-13 Thread Brian McNeil
I have a response from the National Portrait Gallery's press spokesperson that they are drafting a release to issue today. Obviously they've received a lot of interest on this. Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Foundation-l] About that "sue and be damned"to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-11 Thread Brian McNeil
I have emailed the culture department, pointed them at the legal threat, and asked a few questions and for a statement on this. Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sam Blacketer

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request

2009-06-01 Thread Brian McNeil
auk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request Could Cormac travel to London do you think? ----- "Brian McNeil" wrote: > From: "Brian McNeil" > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Monday, 1 June, 20

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request

2009-06-01 Thread Brian McNeil
Not a Brit, but IIRC Cormac Lawler was doing his PhD on Wikiversity. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Turvey Sent: 01 June 2009 23:17 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: R

[Wikimediauk-l] Merchandise

2009-06-01 Thread Brian McNeil
I know this may be early days, but I see mention of chapter negotiations and this is a somewhat related issue. Most people here (not in the wider public) know about the Cafepress store for Wiki merchandise, but it doesn't really cut it anymore. I am aware that alternatives are being looked at,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-28 Thread Brian McNeil
Actually, the way things are licensed around here they're an end to the mean. Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton Sent: 28 May 2009 18:01 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia researchers

2009-05-16 Thread Brian McNeil
kisource access to not-on public-display out of copyright manuscripts perhaps? Brian McNeil -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton There has been talk of making nice membership ca

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia researchers

2009-05-16 Thread Brian McNeil
ty process of issuing ID cards. What are people's thoughts on expanding the scope of skenmy's proposal as outlined above? Brian McNeil ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM pics - and Swine Flu

2009-05-06 Thread brian . mcneil
this is something that needs organised at flashmob speeds. Basically, an ad-hoc Wikipedia workshop to bring them up to speed on this. Interesting vaguely related AP report... http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ghB7kaUC_cbUE_Y2y7WrZfrjTcQQD97SCO683 Brian McNeil ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-30 Thread brian . mcneil
I'd say Phorm could technically be seen as in violation of the WMF privacy policy - which I assume WMUK has adopted for their own use.It'd delight me to see all chapters plus the WMF ensure they're opted out, just to say 'no' to cooperating with a surveillence scheme for advertising. I'd also say a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Charity application rejected

2009-04-27 Thread Brian McNeil
The Register - specifically Orlowski - doesn't make elementary mistakes. They publish fiction related to Wikipedia. Brian McNeil -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peel Sent: 27

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Charity application rejected

2009-04-24 Thread Brian McNeil
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Charity application rejected 2009/4/25 Brian McNeil : > Because WMUK would be so closely associated with the 501(c) WMF, I think > Mike Godwin should be pointed at this. I appreciate various factors may make > him unable to further involve himself, but you don&#x

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Charity application rejected

2009-04-24 Thread Brian McNeil
Because WMUK would be so closely associated with the 501(c) WMF, I think Mike Godwin should be pointed at this. I appreciate various factors may make him unable to further involve himself, but you don't know what UK legal-eagle contacts he can point your way. Brian. -Original Message- Fr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership drive template

2009-04-10 Thread Brian McNeil
hose fit, able, and affluent enough, to go see it in person. What I take from "content liberation" is that you no longer need to go to the museum because it is online. That is most definitely not what I think should be encouraged, nor a realistic pitch to those who you want to share con

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership drive template

2009-04-09 Thread Brian McNeil
es - like giving a sample from the new exhibition they're going to put on. Gut feeling is, I don't like "content access partnerships" as a name. Not particularly struck with the "showcasing" option above, but it is closer to something I think can be sold t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM

2009-03-18 Thread Brian McNeil
Then ask Jimbo: jwa...@wikimedia.org Not so painful? Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph seddon Sent: 18 March 2009 14:03 To: wikimediau...@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Woop-dee-doo (News from the co-op)

2009-02-24 Thread Brian McNeil
Ah, it's for charity - have some appropriate music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6NfQyNLto Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Theresa Knott Sent: 24 February 2009 18:34 To: wikimed

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block

2009-02-20 Thread Brian McNeil
David is right, if they haven't a clue about techniques to manage a modern website - techniques that are over ten years old - then they are quite simply not fit to manage any sort of filtering blacklist. I have not, and would not, actively seek out child pornography. However, I have a clue about h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Social Entrepreneur awards

2009-02-16 Thread Brian McNeil
Does this help? http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/2008-09_Wikipedia_for_Schools_goes_online -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Cates Sent: 17 February 2009 00:21 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestion for a good contact

2009-02-15 Thread Brian McNeil
If a company or business comes to terms with the notability guidelines for sources, they are likely best placed to argue their case for an entry in Wikipedia - or expansion of an existing entry. They would be negligent were they not maintaining records of all press coverage. Part of the process of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Encouraging new members

2009-01-17 Thread Brian McNeil
Bricks? Stock up here: http://theperfectgift.org.uk/ Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton Sent: 17 January 2009 17:02 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interview with Tony Benn

2009-01-09 Thread Brian McNeil
a reflection on you failing to understand that a second interview is being conducted. As to "fawning", yeah we're all a bunch of radicalised Trotskyite commies on Wikinews - even the Americans. Except for Skenmy, he's a supporter of the Conservative party and sits in the corner. :

[Wikimediauk-l] Interview with Tony Benn

2009-01-08 Thread Brian McNeil
Something that may be of interest to WMUK people. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Tony_Benn_discusses_politics_with_Wikinews If you want to suggest questions, stick them on the talk. It may be a good idea to listen to the previous interview which is a couple of clicks away from the related news

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