Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 1 Dec 2013, at 03:01, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote: On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:01, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: Actually, I despair of the entire thread. There is all of £20 at stake here. There is every reason to economise on staff time, on this

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
On 2 December 2013 18:59, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.ukwrote: I think it’s useful to see the range of viewpoints here, and if there are people subscribed that have different viewpoints than those raised here then they shouldn’t feel forbidden from airing them here if they want

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread Thomas Morton
To be honest giving the recipient the option is a good idea. I know everyone raves about john Lewis, for example. Bit I'd bin any of their vouchers instantly based on theor product acquisition practices and the way they treat contracted employees. Horrid company. Tom On 30 Nov 2013 13:05, Katie

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread
This is probably a good moment to remind employees and contractors of Wikimedia UK that comments about individuals or organizations that appear defamatory, may be taken as a position of the charity, especially if the charity does not take any steps to disassociate itself from published statements.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread
On 30 November 2013 16:22, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: He's being an arse because he doesn't like me because I don't roll over to his bullying and harrassment. Yawn, small minds and stuff :) Please accept my apologies for the distraction he has caused on this thread.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread Deskana
Irrespective of whether or not Tom's comments reflect badly on the charity, this public bickering definitely does. It's also outside the scope of the thread. I'd suggest taking this off-list, please. Dan On 30 November 2013 17:21, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 November 2013 16:22, Thomas

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread Michael Peel
In general, Tom Morris’s email is spot on here. Choice is always a good approach to take, so saying £X of book vouchers of your choice would be good, although it would be best to set out a list of what their choice is (a wiki page that can easily be linked to?) so they don’t ask for one that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-30 Thread Charles Matthews
On 30 November 2013 20:53, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: Hi all, As Jonathan suggested some time ago, in the publicity we can offer a gift voucher of a given value, and allow the recipient to chose what is easiest for them. This has also been repeated once or twice. I am surprised that we

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread Stevie Benton
Could you explain that please? I'm not sure I understand how you arrive at that figure or where it comes from. Would be useful information. Thank you, Stevie On 29 November 2013 13:14, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 November 2013 13:08, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 November 2013 13:08, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Unless I've missed something, this gift aid is money we could be reclaiming from the government to supplement donations, but aren't able to. We're not actually paying it in tax. If we is WMUK, then no, we're not. But we

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread
On 29 November 2013 13:22, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Could you explain that please? I'm not sure I understand how you arrive at that figure or where it comes from. Would be useful information.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread Charles Matthews
On 29 November 2013 14:09, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 November 2013 13:22, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Could you explain that please? I'm not sure I understand how you arrive at that figure or where it comes from. Would be useful information.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread Andrew Gray
The average time it takes me to redeem an Amazon voucher is under a month. I can say from experience I hang on to John Lewis vouchers for a lot longer before needing to buy a cushion ;) I agree with that Amazon vouchers are potentially problematic, but they're also a lot more useful than many

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread rexx
Surely the easiest solution is to offer gift vouchers of the winner's choice to the value of £X and ask all the finalists what their preference is? The moral dilemma is then conveniently shuffled off onto the recipient. Anecdotally, I took me almost a year to redeem my last Amazon gift voucher -

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-28 Thread James Farrar
That's outrageous. Why are we wasting money? On 28 Nov 2013 02:32, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: About £200,000 per year. It's a pity Amazon isn't as publicly spirited as WMUK. -- Rexx On 27 November 2013 21:38, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: How much more tax than

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-28 Thread rexx
Ask Sue Gardner. On 28/11/2013, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: That's outrageous. Why are we wasting money? On 28 Nov 2013 02:32, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: About £200,000 per year. It's a pity Amazon isn't as publicly spirited as WMUK. -- Rexx On 27 November 2013

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-28 Thread
On 28 November 2013 23:47, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Ask Sue Gardner. On 28/11/2013, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: That's outrageous. Why are we wasting money? On 28 Nov 2013 02:32, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: +1 + Ask the WMUK board about the deal. As a trustee I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Symonds
-Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of fab...@unpopular.org.uk Sent: 21 November 2013 09:05 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance Hi all, Can I go

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-27 Thread Jonathan Cardy
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance Hi all, Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.) Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-27 Thread James Farrar
How much more tax than legally required does WMUK pay? On 21 Nov 2013 09:04, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: Hi all, Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.) Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-27 Thread rexx
About £200,000 per year. It's a pity Amazon isn't as publicly spirited as WMUK. -- Rexx On 27 November 2013 21:38, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: How much more tax than legally required does WMUK pay? On 21 Nov 2013 09:04, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: Hi all, Can I go

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Jon Davies
- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of fab...@unpopular.org.uk Sent: 21 November 2013 09:05 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance Hi all, Can I go ahead and announce