Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Hello! I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated allready. Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image Retrieval", searching based on the machine vision recognized content of the image is called "Content Based Image Retrieval". Wh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Pine W
That sounds like a good idea for an experiment. Any volunteers? Pine On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Kristian Kankainen wrote: > Hello! > > I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated > allready. > > Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Ba

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separating Special:MyLanguage from Extension:Collection

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Does the Special:MyLanguage support multiple languages? If not, I think it ought, it would be a good fallback chain. Kristian Kankainen 18.06.2014 03:57, Ryan Kaldari kirjutas: The specific need is that I want to set the 'Mobile-frontend-terms-url' message to '//m.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
I have no time but for brainstorming and such kind of advicing/helping, if any volunteers would need this kind of help. Kristian 18.06.2014 10:20, Pine W kirjutas: That sounds like a good idea for an experiment. Any volunteers? Pine On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Kristian Kankainen wro

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I didn't get any replies, so I just went on and started using it and updated the documentation page :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-06-16 18:30 GMT+03:00 Amir E. Aharoni :

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Kristian, it's not impossible to find a mentee for such an idea. Please edit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Category_suggestions . While we wait for The Perfect Wikidata Heaven Solution (TM), it's worth expertimenting with. Nemo __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As long as our categories are English, they are useless for all of those who do not speak English. Even so, as long as the current technology is used for those categories it is a trial to find images at all. Many people have given up. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 09:12, Kristian Kanka

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The "perfect Wikidata heaven solution" will be as imperfect as the "perfect Wikipedia heaven solution". Lets stay down to earth and go for something that works most of the time and does not take forever to realise. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Kr

Re: [Wikitech-l] new terms of use/paid contributions - do they apply to mediawiki

2014-06-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 16/06/2014 22:25, Brian Wolff a écrit : > Thus the new policy would require anyone submitting code to use to > declare who they work for. Personally this seems both unnecessary to > me, as well as unlikely to be followed. For example, I see no reason > why some person who uses our software shoul

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-18 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM, S Page wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) < > bjor...@wikimedia.org > > wrote: > > > > > I personally find the topic history page[4] to be horrendous, both ugly > > and nearly unusable. > > > We're going to revise topic history. > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Could not the categories' language links be useful here? Otherwise BabelNet[1] has set up different ways to connect concepts in different languages into a semantic network. They call it a multilingual encyclopedic dictionary and compile it by combining data from the Wikipedia(s) and WordNet. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, My understanding of English is adequate. I find it however really hard to find the pictures I seek. I have given up using Commons for illustrations on my blog for instance. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 12:25, Kristian Kankainen wrote: > Could not the categories' language links be us

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Magnus Manske
Well, you can use this: http://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/quick_intersection.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&cats=Red+flowers%0D%0ABicycles&ns=6&depth=5&max=3&start=0&format=html&redirects=&norun which will give you one image. It has a bicycle and red flowers. However, if you push the cat

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC Office Hour: Q&A with the MediaWiki Release Management RFP applicants

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Reminder, this is happening today at 20:00 UTC (1pm Pacific). Greg > Please join us for an hour long discussion with representatives from the > two applications for the MediaWiki Release Management RFP. > > What: > IRC Q&A > > Who: > The applicants (Mark y Markus LLC and the Consortium

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen wrote: > Hello! > > I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated > allready. > > Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image > Retrieval", searching based on the machine vision recognized content of > the image

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Jun 18, 2014 2:28 PM, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > > On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated > > allready. > > > > Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image > > Retrieval", search

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC Office Hour: Q&A with the MediaWiki Release Management RFP applicants

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Reminder, this is happening today at 20:00 UTC (1pm Pacific). And it happened. Log: Thanks to everyone who participated! Greg -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E |

[Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A few Python Tips

2014-06-18 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, we are hosting a Tech Talk tomorrow Thursday June 19 at 19:30 UTC: A Few Python Tips, by Sumana Harihareswara Details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-06-19 Video: https://plus.google.com/events/c4rjtirsfsn0am6jqhpjob6eakc Local times: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fix

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Woo, being bold! One thing I wonder, would it be good to specify some sort of format for ct_params from the get go, like a json value, and document that all callers should use this format? --bawolff On 6/18/14, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I didn't get any replies, so I just went on and started usi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-18 Thread krinklem...@gmail.com
On 13 Jun 2014, at 01:28, MZMcBride wrote: > [..] companies put wikis on an intranet is that sysadmins don't > trust large PHP applications (with good reason). Plus, when you're running > a particularly old version of MediaWiki, many of the newer security > vulnerabilities are irrelevant as they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread krinklem...@gmail.com
On 18 Jun 2014, at 06:14, MZMcBride wrote: > Lars Aronsson wrote: >> Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images? >> We have categories and descriptions, but we also know >> they don't describe all that we want to find in an >> image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red >> flo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
> > While having category intersection is definitely a huge plus now, for it to > work really well we need it to be traversing up and down. Does it do that > right now? > > Especially because Commons has a policy against over categorisation (which > makes sense), and because we subcategorise so ins

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I did, in fact, use a JSON-encoded value in my code, because it made sense to me where I needed it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/139881/ I guess that it's up to the community to decide about the best practices. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.c