Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Pine W
Machine vision is definitely getting better with time. We have computer-driven airplanes, computer-driven cars, and computer-driven spacecraft. The computers need us less and less as hardware and software improve. I think it may be less than a decade before machine vision is good enough to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Hello! I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated allready. Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called Concept Based Image Retrieval, searching based on the machine vision recognized content of the image is called Content Based Image Retrieval. What

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separating Special:MyLanguage from Extension:Collection

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Does the Special:MyLanguage support multiple languages? If not, I think it ought, it would be a good fallback chain. Kristian Kankainen 18.06.2014 03:57, Ryan Kaldari kirjutas: The specific need is that I want to set the 'Mobile-frontend-terms-url' message to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
I have no time but for brainstorming and such kind of advicing/helping, if any volunteers would need this kind of help. Kristian 18.06.2014 10:20, Pine W kirjutas: That sounds like a good idea for an experiment. Any volunteers? Pine On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Kristian Kankainen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I didn't get any replies, so I just went on and started using it and updated the documentation page :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-06-16 18:30 GMT+03:00 Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Kristian, it's not impossible to find a mentee for such an idea. Please edit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Category_suggestions . While we wait for The Perfect Wikidata Heaven Solution (TM), it's worth expertimenting with. Nemo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As long as our categories are English, they are useless for all of those who do not speak English. Even so, as long as the current technology is used for those categories it is a trial to find images at all. Many people have given up. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 09:12, Kristian

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The perfect Wikidata heaven solution will be as imperfect as the perfect Wikipedia heaven solution. Lets stay down to earth and go for something that works most of the time and does not take forever to realise. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo)

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-18 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: I personally find the topic history page[4] to be horrendous, both ugly and nearly unusable. We're going to revise topic history.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Kristian Kankainen
Could not the categories' language links be useful here? Otherwise BabelNet[1] has set up different ways to connect concepts in different languages into a semantic network. They call it a multilingual encyclopedic dictionary and compile it by combining data from the Wikipedia(s) and WordNet.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, My understanding of English is adequate. I find it however really hard to find the pictures I seek. I have given up using Commons for illustrations on my blog for instance. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 12:25, Kristian Kankainen krist...@eki.ee wrote: Could not the categories'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Magnus Manske
Well, you can use this: http://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/quick_intersection.php?lang=commonsproject=wikimediacats=Red+flowers%0D%0ABicyclesns=6depth=5max=3start=0format=htmlredirects=norun which will give you one image. It has a bicycle and red flowers. However, if you push the category

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC Office Hour: QA with the MediaWiki Release Management RFP applicants

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Reminder, this is happening today at 20:00 UTC (1pm Pacific). Greg quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2014-06-16 time=11:46:03 -0700 Please join us for an hour long discussion with representatives from the two applications for the MediaWiki Release Management RFP. What: IRC QA Who:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen krist...@eki.ee wrote: Hello! I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated allready. Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called Concept Based Image Retrieval, searching based on the machine vision recognized content of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Jun 18, 2014 2:28 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen krist...@eki.ee wrote: Hello! I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated allready. Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called Concept Based Image

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC Office Hour: QA with the MediaWiki Release Management RFP applicants

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2014-06-18 time=09:14:07 -0700 Reminder, this is happening today at 20:00 UTC (1pm Pacific). And it happened. Log: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.2014-06-18-20.01.log.html Thanks to everyone who participated! Greg --

[Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: A few Python Tips

2014-06-18 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, we are hosting a Tech Talk tomorrow Thursday June 19 at 19:30 UTC: A Few Python Tips, by Sumana Harihareswara Details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-06-19 Video: https://plus.google.com/events/c4rjtirsfsn0am6jqhpjob6eakc Local times:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Woo, being bold! One thing I wonder, would it be good to specify some sort of format for ct_params from the get go, like a json value, and document that all callers should use this format? --bawolff On 6/18/14, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I didn't get any replies, so I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-18 Thread krinklem...@gmail.com
On 13 Jun 2014, at 01:28, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: [..] companies put wikis on an intranet is that sysadmins don't trust large PHP applications (with good reason). Plus, when you're running a particularly old version of MediaWiki, many of the newer security vulnerabilities are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread krinklem...@gmail.com
On 18 Jun 2014, at 06:14, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Lars Aronsson wrote: Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images? We have categories and descriptions, but we also know they don't describe all that we want to find in an image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
While having category intersection is definitely a huge plus now, for it to work really well we need it to be traversing up and down. Does it do that right now? Especially because Commons has a policy against over categorisation (which makes sense), and because we subcategorise so insanely