Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Williams
...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: 12 September 2009 09:48 To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants Hoi, When we are to do this for English and have digitise and digitize, we have to keep in mind

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-12 Thread Ilmari Karonen
Happy-melon wrote: Ilmari Karonen wrote: -{af: {{GFDL/af}}; als: {{GFDL/als}}; an: {{GFDL/an}}; ar: {{GFDL/ar}}; ast: {{GFDL/ast}}; be: {{GFDL/be}}; be-tarask: {{GFDL/be-tarask}}; !-- ...and so on for about 70 more languages --}- The above begs the question, of course, would this switch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When we are to do this for English and have digitise and digitize, we have to keep in mind that this ONLY deals with issues that are differences between GB and US English. There are other varieties of English that may make this more complicated. Given the size of the GB and US populations it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-12 Thread Domas Mituzas
Given the size of the GB and US populations it would split the cache and effectively double the cache size. Did I just see you putting performance ahead of language support? Just checkin' Domas ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-11 Thread Platonides
Ilmari Karonen wrote: A popular game played with a bat and ball is -{en-gb:Cricket; en-us:Baseball}-. That reminds me... some time ago, someone proposed to enable LanguageConverter on Commons (but without any automatic conversion, presumably) and to (ab?)use it to replace the existing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Platonides
Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima wrote: But I wasn't able to create a param default in order we could set which of the variants will be shown by default for anonymous users. It would be good if we could use {{Language variations| default = pt-br | pt = word 1| pt-br = word 2}} to get: (a) word 2,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't know why you're writing this nonsense, you obviously haven't looked at the code at all. This paragraph is unnecessary. The language variant system that we have could easily convert between US and UK English.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Trevor Parscal
On 9/10/09 10:06 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't know why you're writing this nonsense, you obviously haven't looked at the code at all. This paragraph is unnecessary. Seriously! Please read things

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
The differences between the UK and American varieties of English are not limited just to spelling and vocabulary. Ariel Στις 10-09-2009, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:06 -0400, ο/η Aryeh Gregor έγραψε: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't know why you're

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Williamson
It might be possible to make it apply to the edit page as well, but in zh.wp, sr.wp, and kk.wp currently it does not. I'm guessing (could be wrong) that it would eat up a lot more resources. Mark skype: node.ue On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima
2009/9/9 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org The language variant system that we have could easily convert between US and UK English. In fact it already does convert between a language pair with a far more complex relationship, that is Simplified and Traditional Chinese. The language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Seems I'm not the only one who had a completely wrong idea about how variants work. We definitely need more documentation and fame for this system, so its potential doesn't go to waste. I theoretically knew that it was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Tim Starling
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Seems I'm not the only one who had a completely wrong idea about how variants work. We definitely need more documentation and fame for this system, so its potential doesn't go to waste. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima
Hello! I think the code is these: http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/LanguageConverter_8php-source.html#l00018 http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/LanguageZh_8php-source.html#l9 and a comment at http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/LanguageConverter_8php-source.html#l00258 says: 00271 /* we convert everything

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Tim Starling
Ariel T. Glenn wrote: The differences between the UK and American varieties of English are not limited just to spelling and vocabulary. Note that the -{...}- structure is available in wikitext to translate article-specific fragments of text, so you can also translate worldview: A popular game

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/9 Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima heldergeov...@gmail.com: Hello! I noticed at sr.wikipedia there is an option Variant under Internationalization at the preferences. How is that different from the 'sr', 'sr-ec' and 'sr-el' which are shown at Language option (also under

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/9 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: 2009/9/9 Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima heldergeov...@gmail.com: So, I would like to know if there is currently any feature which could help us to avoid the problem of having a divided community of users ('pt' x 'pt-br') fighting with each other ad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-09 Thread Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima
Nice! ;-) Do you think tables like these http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikcionário:Versões da língua portuguesa/Tabela http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Versões da língua portuguesa/tabela could be a start point to a similar conversion system for pt - pt-br? Meanwhile, I was also trying to