Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > By definition, a null edit does not perform any change at all, and is > therefore not recorded publicly since there's technically nothing to > record. I suspect the only way you could find this kind of information is > in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

Actually, from my experience, nulledit have a good chance to edit something, and then it's stored as regular revision. Igal 2017-07-25 16:58 GMT+03:00 Bartosz Dziewoński : > I've looked over the code briefly and it looks like null edits are not > logged in any way, not even

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

I've looked over the code briefly and it looks like null edits are not logged in any way, not even in private server logs. However, for the purposes of preventing abuse, null edits check the 'linkpurge' rate limit (which is set to 30 actions per minute by default), and exceeding rate limits

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

I spoke about a possible change rather than the current behaviour. But I understand. 2017-07-25 15:07 GMT+02:00 John : > Bináris the root issue is that mediawiki doesnt see Null edits as an edit, > it sees them more as a purge with forcelinkupdate=True. The logs that >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

Bináris the root issue is that mediawiki doesnt see Null edits as an edit, it sees them more as a purge with forcelinkupdate=True. The logs that contain that information are not in mediawiki, but rather the webserver logs. Exposing those logs is a privacy issue. Second if there are performance

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

2017-07-25 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Garry : > By definition, a null edit does not perform any change at all, and is > therefore not recorded publicly since there's technically nothing to > record. I suspect the only way you could find this kind of information is > in the server

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

By definition, a null edit does not perform any change at all, and is therefore not recorded publicly since there's technically nothing to record. I suspect the only way you could find this kind of information is in the server logs, and access to those is very tightly restricted for privacy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

So, I do not know how to help you. Igal 2017-07-25 15:09 GMT+03:00 Bináris : > 2017-07-25 14:05 GMT+02:00 יגאל חיטרון : > > > Code a logger for the bot. > > > For all possible bots that will be written in the future? > > In this situation I am not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

2017-07-25 14:05 GMT+02:00 יגאל חיטרון : > Code a logger for the bot. > For all possible bots that will be written in the future? In this situation I am not the bot owner, but a Wikipedia user. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

Code a logger for the bot. Igal (User:IKhitron) 2017-07-25 14:55 GMT+03:00 Bináris : > Hi, > > given a bot that only makes nulledits, for example with touch.py (ie. > saving pages without modifying), these edits won't appear either in recent > changes or the page history. >

[Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

Hi, given a bot that only makes nulledits, for example with touch.py (ie. saving pages without modifying), these edits won't appear either in recent changes or the page history. How can I follow these edits? (I am admin and checkuser, but it may be interesting without higher user rights.) Even

[Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

Would it be possible to generate a log or statistics of searches on Wikipedia using the Go button that did not immediately reach an article? Properly anonymized of course. I think it would be useful for finding missing articles and redirects to create. There would be a lot of crap of course, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to generate a log or statistics of searches on Wikipedia using the Go button that did not immediately reach an article? Properly anonymized of course. I think it would be useful for finding missing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

Magnus Manske wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to generate a log or statistics of searches on Wikipedia using the Go button that did not immediately reach an article? Properly anonymized of course. I think it would be useful

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

Robert Stojnic wrote: Magnus Manske wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to generate a log or statistics of searches on Wikipedia using the Go button that did not immediately reach an article? Also, searches made using either button

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: Robert Stojnic wrote: Magnus Manske wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to generate a log or statistics of searches on Wikipedia using the Go button that did

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

This sounds like a good idea, although we could probably argue about cut-offs. However, since this needs to be done in-house (and not on toolserver etc because I imagine we cannot distribute raw logs) I image it is going to go very slow as there is no-one working on it or planning to work on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Suggestion : * log search and SHA1 IP hash (anonymous!) *Any* mapping of the IP is not anonymous. Please see the AOL search results where unique IDs were connected between searches to disclose information.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

2010/1/14 Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: * log search and SHA1 IP hash (anonymous!) There are only 2 billion unique addresses and they can all be found in half an hour probably. A count of search

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: * log search and SHA1 IP hash (anonymous!) There are only 2 billion unique addresses

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what I would suggest disclosing: #start_datetime end_datetime hits search_string 2010-01-01-0:0:4 2010-01-13-23-59-50 39284 naked people 2010-01-01-0:0:4 2010-01-13-23-59-50 23950 hot grits ...

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

2010/1/14 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what I would suggest disclosing: #start_datetime end_datetime hits search_string 2010-01-01-0:0:4 2010-01-13-23-59-50 39284 naked people 2010-01-01-0:0:4

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

* search queries are logged in a standardized fashion (for grouping), e.g. lowercase, single spaces, no leading/trailing spaces, special chars converted to spaces, etc. Wiktionary is case-sensitive and so case-folding there may not be appropriate; I personally would be interested in seeing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On 01/14/2010 05:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Conrad Irwin conrad.ir...@googlemail.com wrote: Wiktionary is case-sensitive and so case-folding there may not be appropriate; I personally would be interested in seeing these logs before even the NFC normalizers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Conrad Irwin conrad.ir...@googlemail.com wrote: Wiktionary is case-sensitive and so case-folding there may not be appropriate; I personally would be interested in seeing these logs before even the NFC normalizers get to them (given a lack of any other source

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

Such people would be able to deny searching for such terms, I don't see this as posing any more problems than the history dumps. Thinking further though, it would be possible to tie a search to an IP address or User when a page is created with the search term (as it is highly likely if there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

Aryeh Gregor wrote: The logs are taken from the Squids, long before MediaWiki touches them, so they shouldn't be normalized at all. Search isn't cached, so it may be easier to just log it at the backend. I expect many people using things like please tell me how many people live in China, as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of failed searches

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Sampled search logs are unlikely to reveal them though, since what they are repeating are the non-keywords, not the full query. Sampling is fine, but aggregated logs aren't likely to… thats the primary reason for reporting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log

How does one access the toolserver to use commands like that? 2009/5/19 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com Chop down a tree? skype: node.ue 2009/5/19 Mark Clements (HappyDog) gm...@kennel17.co.uk: Jan Luca j...@jans-seite.de wrote in message news:01c9d644$8afc98e0$a0f5ca...@de...

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log

On May 20, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Bart wrote: How does one access the toolserver to use commands like that? with an axe. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log

Just like a dwarven cleric can turn any undead monster... with his axe? ;) 2009/5/20 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com On May 20, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Bart wrote: How does one access the toolserver to use commands like that? with an axe. ___

[Wikitech-l] Log

Hello, how can I create a log? Gruß Jan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log

I use this to make a log: Initialize log page: $wgLogTypes[] = 'newlog'; $wgLogNames['newlog'] = 'newloglogpage'; $wgLogHeaders['newlog']= 'newloglogpagetext'; $wgLogActions['newlog/newlog'] = 'newloglogentry'; Add new log entry: //Log it $log

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log

2009/5/16 Jan Luca j...@jans-seite.de: Hello, how can I create a log? Do you just want to add a log entry, or do you want to add an entirely new log type? In the latter case, look at $wgLogTypes [1], for the former look at the LogPage class [2]. For example usage, look at extensions which