Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-19 Thread Neil Harris
On 19/11/12 02:09, MZMcBride wrote: Tim Starling wrote: Providing a traditional URL shortener with traditional features would be useful, at least for some people, and would eliminate the need to use third-party URL shorteners internally, which have a commercial focus and unknown lifetime. If

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-19 Thread Luke Welling
There are some practical reasons for providing site specific domain shortening beyond owning a cool domain hack. Discouraging the use of third party shorteners has real value. The web getting littered with urls that camouflage their destination, are tied to loss making commercial entities of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-19 Thread Mono
I think the wmf.co and related URLs are our best bet. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Luke Welling lwell...@wikimedia.orgwrote: There are some practical reasons for providing site specific domain shortening beyond owning a cool domain hack. Discouraging the use of third party shorteners

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-18 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: Perhaps ask Ward Cunningham if he'd be willing to donate the wiki.orgdomain to the WMF cause, and have links of the form wiki.org/token ? It's a cool idea for a shortener, but a bit rude to assume wiki.org should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-18 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:56 -0800, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: Perhaps ask Ward Cunningham if he'd be willing to donate the wiki.org domain to the WMF cause, and have links of the form wiki.org/token ? to pages on any or all of the WMF-hosted sites? wiki.org is just as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-18 Thread Tim Starling
On 19/11/12 10:04, Daniel Friesen wrote: My favorite right now is en.wp.w.mf. Unless you want to spend $100,000. ;) In which case we could revive the age old wish of a .wiki tld, grab some short names for wmf wikis, and make .wiki available for registration of all wiki. I also like the idea

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-18 Thread MZMcBride
Tim Starling wrote: Providing a traditional URL shortener with traditional features would be useful, at least for some people, and would eliminate the need to use third-party URL shorteners internally, which have a commercial focus and unknown lifetime. If there was no integration with MW

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-18 Thread Krinkle
On Nov 18, 2012, at 1:43 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: More than that, they are using Wikipedia's logo stolen from Wikimedia Commons without attribution and infringing on the WMF's trademark. I've notified our

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-17 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. I know this has come up a few times and it's usually the same discussion, but there's now an RFC here, for those interested: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/URL_shortener. Thanks to Ryan K. for starting this. :-) MZMcBride

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-17 Thread Chad
Fwiw, wi.ki isn't really available. I looked into it years ago, and Kiribati charges excessive amounts for their domains (like 10 grand). Dunno if that's changed. -Chad On Nov 17, 2012 3:29 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. I know this has come up a few times and it's usually the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-17 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: Fwiw, wi.ki isn't really available. I looked into it years ago, and Kiribati charges excessive amounts for their domains (like 10 grand). Dunno if that's changed. I'm not sure I'd say wi.ki is off the table... aside from a domain donation, the Wikimedia Foundation now has an annual

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-17 Thread Mono
wi.ki is not available - it's been purchased by a company trying to sell gTLD domains. A couple months ago wi.ki was still available, but not anymore (http://www.wi.ki/) More than that, they are using Wikipedia's logo stolen from Wikimedia Commons without attribution and infringing on the WMF's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia URL shortener

2012-11-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: More than that, they are using Wikipedia's logo stolen from Wikimedia Commons without attribution and infringing on the WMF's trademark. I've notified our legal team of this infringing use. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering