Darn, I was hoping to get $4500 for each of the clunker PM3's in the
attic.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:14:04AM -0400, Robert West wrote:
> Take my dialup, please!
>
> I'd gladly trade that in, in a big hurry!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless
Money for masochists. If you wrote an application you know what I mean.
>
> My suggestion for Phase II of the Broadband Stimulus Program:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kmd4hn
>
> Other potential program titles:
>
> Money for Modems?
> Bucks for Broadband?
> Wampum for Wireless?
>
> Any other ideas
My kids don't need any more future debt to pay for. Kthx
Funny though thanks for the laugh.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:33 PM
To: WISPA General List; Motorola Ca
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> My suggestion for Phase II of the Broadband Stimulus Program:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kmd4hn
That really is a pretty awful idea from the WISP perspective.
WISPs rarely have market recognition and name value. Ask most anyone
about their broadband choices - you'll prob
Hi All -
I've looked through several of the archives and wasn't finding an
answer quickly, but I will apologize if this has been discussed
before.
Quick history, we are a facilities-based CLEC and provide phone and
broadband internet over a dedicated fiber-optic network. Through out
our service
Sounds like standard hotspot functionality.
Lots of ways to do that. For homegrown backend check out Mikrotik.
Jeff Yette wrote:
> Hi All -
>
> I've looked through several of the archives and wasn't finding an
> answer quickly, but I will apologize if this has been discussed
> before.
>
> Quick h
I know a provider in Florida that covers a bunch of Condos that uses
Meraki's inside all the units to get good signals everywhere. I've never
used them personally though.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: T
Jeff Yette wrote:
> To clarify, we are not looking for a hosted application, but more of a
> home-grown solution. We have all of the components for billing, which
> will automatically create a radius account and e-mail, we have online
> billing and web-mail - the only part is the is missing is the
I need a backhaul link outside of 2.4 and 5.8. If I put together a Mikrotik
system, say an RB600 with an Xr3 and put a 20db Grid on each end would that
be legal? Admittedly I'm not up to speed on what is and is not allowed in
3650 as far as power output, etc etc. This would be a short backhaul -
We are using Radius Manager 3
(http://www.radius-manager.com/?gclid=CNqwrZL8spwCFSMeDQodd2XJnQ). It's
not the best, but it is the best we found for the price.
Martha
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
*/Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Jo
I personally am avoiding 3.65 and MT. Ligowave and an80 are what I am
going to do.
I do know it works, though. You have to find the cable that matches
5.8 frequency in MT to 3.65 in actual output. No support by MT (or
even as much as an answer to my questions).
On 8/20/09, Jason Hensley wrote
I know it works, but will the FCC come crashing down on me if they find out
I have these in place?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
On Thu, August 20, 2009 2:51 pm, Jason Hensley wrote:
> I know it works, but will the FCC come crashing down on me if they find
> out
> I have these in place?
As long as you're licensed (just a couple hundred bucks), and every 3650
endpoint is registered with the FCC (you have to register not just
I took the board out of a Deliberant AP2i wireless indoor router,
just to experiment. It is one of the Wiliboards. There is no
apparent grounding point on this board. Have any of you messed with
these? How did you ground it? I soldered a ground wire to the metal
shield on the RJ45 jack on
I agree to that. For what you are doing, the Mikrotik would be a no brainer
to decide on. But that that, he's looking to install indoors with many
apartments. All the cordless phones, microwave ovens, baby monitors,
wireless routers, PlayStations, Wii consoles and the like all about as close
as
* Jason Hensley wrote, On 8/20/2009 3:51 PM:
I know it works, but will the FCC come crashing down on me if they find out
I have these in place?
FIrst you need to lite-license yourself and make sure you (your
locations) are not in an exclusion zone. If so, then take 2. Otherwise,
proceed and
Already licensed, so covered there. Will definitely register each one,
covered there. Just making sure that the equipment I'm looking at won't
cause problems with the FCC.
Now, my preference would be to grab a Tranzeo starter kit, or to grab a
Ligowave pair for this, but the ole' pocketbook is
Any reason you're avoiding MT with 3.65?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650
I personally am avoiding 3.65
Use a meter to see if you continuity between the ground you made on the
shield and the negative pin on the power connector. If it goes through,
you're good.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, Aug
Where is the telephone demark. Access? You're a CLEC, put a small
DSLAM in there; Zhone? Or consider Ethernet over power
line. Apartment complexes of any size can get really ugly with RF in
a hurry. Wireless absolutely? I don't know about the Meraki
hardware mentioned, but seem to rememb
I think that should read "table", not "cable".
Josh Luthman wrote:
> I personally am avoiding 3.65 and MT. Ligowave and an80 are what I am
> going to do.
>
> I do know it works, though. You have to find the cable that matches
> 5.8 frequency in MT to 3.65 in actual output. No support by MT (or
I think I listed all my reasons.
No support from anyone on it
MT doesn't get the channel right (small but on a bad day big)
Poor bang/buck - Ligowave is best here IMO
On 8/20/09, Jason Hensley wrote:
> Any reason you're avoiding MT with 3.65?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless
I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me
well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to
boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop
because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to
se
Ruckus works great for this. Hit me offlist if you want more information.
Honestly though... as a CLEC... shouldn't you be looking at VDSL instead of
wireless? The Moto/TuT systems stuff isn't that bad price wise.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>-Original Message---
The Mikrotik might be the solution. No DirectTV - we are in Time
Warner territory so we competing in space where the apartments are
wired with Coax that TW owns.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Robert West wrote:
> I agree to that. For what you are doing, the Mikrotik would be a no brainer
> to
The dmarks are trypically in the basements. We could do the DSLAM
thing and we have consider some 8 porters on ebay for $550. Ethernet
over power line won't work because each apartment is on a separate
meter.
We set up some linksys wireless routers (SOHO flavor) and run than as
APs back to a soe
I think the Broadband Over Powerline is the best idea here given all the
concentrated stray RF you'll be dealing with. In the long run, you'll have
a lot less service calls too, I can bet.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Be
Then I'd go with the Broadband over power line. Could also be a revenue
stream if you can lease the converter and a router the end user. Easy to
install. Plugs right into any electrical outlet in the apartment. No need
to worry about sharing Time Warner's cable, the electrical is part of the
bu
Guess you did not contact the right people for support on them. :) WE have
quite a few of them up and running happily.
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikro
I've seen equipment that will go through the meters as well as transformers.
I cant remember the manufacturer but they're out there. But at what
price.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Yette
Sent:
I had to stop and think, doesnt BPL already pass through the meter? I
think it's the transformer that give it the problem, the meter is just a
pass-through, not much resistance whatsoever.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
B
Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it
and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle
track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port
to download the track data. But that is superficial and un
That's why Ruckus blows away anything else. Beamforming on a packet by
packet basis. Put the noise in the nulls :-D Easy to do with 4000+ antenna
patterns in one AP.
Price wise... the G units are $300ish... so compared to any other commercial
grade wi-fi solution (by that I mean controller base
Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times
and it still comes on without complaining.
So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user
replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a
charge I will just r
How accurate it? My Garmin is quite a way off
Richard
2009/8/20
> Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous
> times and it still comes on without complaining.
> So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end
> user replaceable though. Bu
I did post on this list, IIRC. Only Tom said he had one. Been a few
weeks/months.
On 8/20/09, Dennis Burgess wrote:
> Guess you did not contact the right people for support on them. :) WE have
> quite a few of them up and running happily.
>
> -
Meter not the issue. Transformers are. You need one AP per phase (pair
of power wires). It should go past the meter since the power companies
are trying to go pole to inside. Direction through meter won't matter.
Jeff Yette wrote:
> The dmarks are trypically in the basements. We could do the
Looks like a winner so far. And cheap enough as you said. At that price I
could do 2 so as to be able to find at least one when I need it. The
Earthmate setup was big enough there was no way to lose all that mess. One
for me and one for the employee who decides he doesn't want to put it where
i
Which also means you're going to have to compete with Wi-Fi that the cable
customers will install.
If you go wireless... Ruckus will help with that problem.
Also you can authenticate with LDAP, not just Radius or Active Directory
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>-Ori
Besides the Meter issue... its also a shared stream. So you get 10Mb across
the whole building to share with all of your customers. That might be an
issue, might not be.
I thought BPL was dead ;-D
I'd personally still vote for VDSL though
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
Scan the building to see the noise then you can see if wireless is viable.
Richard
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Nah, the Smart meter gives them incentive. They can save a buck by not
having meter readers anymore and still gain a new revenue stream. I looked
at the BPL map for Ohio, we used to only have a small test spot in Cinci but
it's in all sections of the state now. But with that said, the electric
c
It's not all that bad as long as you live up with the 3 problems listed
below. Pricing I think is within range if not less. We have 1 link up
with it and it works as good as 2/5GHz does.
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
-Original
Is this the unit?
Winplus AC13268-72 Beacon GPS Tracker
e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
> Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it
> and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for
> vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing.
BPL is not a good solution. Issues with corroded splices, line noise, and
generally limited distance is part of why moto discontinued it.
Wireless would be my last choice for so many reasons, mostly due to
interference but there are other issues such as reliabilty, consistency, hidden
node, ban
Yep, then drop a MT in front of the DSLAM and bingo you have a DSL hotspot :)
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
WISPA Vendor Mem
exactly
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
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From: Dennis Burgess
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
Yep, then drop a MT in front of the DSLAM and bingo y
We did recently do a 4400 unit hotel complex. Both outdoor APs aiming at the
buildings along with a DSLAM system with APs attached to finish up the coverage
areas.Average around 1000-1500 active users at once. Sometimes more up to
2k when they had a convention.
-
This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick
an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all.
In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone
from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the
guy on the ground.
Same here, iPhone 3GS with MotionX GPS app for a few bucks. I love it and
its always with me. I use it a lot more than the garmin eTrex that site on
a shelf now (hey maybe you could ask me about selling it to you lol)
I have not been too pleased with the compass though :) (oh yeah, or the ATT
Those DSLAMs work good; we have a couple. ADSL2 works great over the
distances found on private properties.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:32:32PM -0400, Jeff Yette wrote:
> The dmarks are trypically in the basements. We could do the DSLAM
> thing and we have consider some 8 porters on ebay for $550
I had a nightmare trying to do apartment complexes. I thought I touched on a
goldmine when all the signups started comming in. Then as tennants started
firing up their own A/P's others would connect to them and cancel service.
How are youll dealing with this? Joe Laura
--
Jeff,
Are there any wires to each room? Like copper phone lines for xDSL? Do you
have to pay for these wires?
Obviously cat5 lines to each room is not going to get you a reasonable ROI.
Wireless should be an option - several devices have been suggested. If you
can simply get them to bridge an
Mikrotik Hotspot between them and the internet
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Joe Laura"
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:17 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
>
> I had a nightmare tryi
Mikrotik Hotspot does NOT have the capability of catching people behind NAT.
Example:
Joe buys a WRT54g. WRT54g bridges to the paid wireless network. Joe buys
and account via laptop plugged into WRT54g. Joe plus in an AP behind the
router and broadcasts ESSID "Free Internet". People mooch.
J
And MT has a RADIUS server piece that does authentication and is free. User
Manager. But it is nasty to get going.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:08 PM
To: WISPA General
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