Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-06 Thread Frank Crawford
Matt; Thanks for sharing your information. Frank On 5/6/2010 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this > list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently > implemented, along with some details on how we are enf

[WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-06 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently implemented, along with some details on how we are enforcing it and how we established the caps. Going back to day 1, we have had a 3gig cap on broadband cu

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
come on... now Something tells me I will see you in the parking lot next to our offices again sleeping in the van To share... Bob and I have our offices in the same plaza I came in the other day and was really tempted to grab some shrink wrap and lock him in his van really tight ... :-) i

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Go to bed. - Original Message - From: "Glenn Kelley" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout > funny - i was just thinking the same thing... > > On May 7, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Depends on the state. :-p >>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Keep dreaming! Capatalisim... Bob- - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. Now, j

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
Now, just make the CPE's work with my existing XR9 based AP's!!! Josh Luthman wrote: 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still se

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
I've been doing that for a couple of years... But I've only been leaving 1 or 2 empty channels between them  20-40 MHz open space. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I have verified with a spectrum analyzer you can run two cards stacked on top in a 433 in the same 5.8 band as long as the channels

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
funny - i was just thinking the same thing... On May 7, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Depends on the state. :-p > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 5/6/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM

Re: [WISPA] MT PtP

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
It was all mp2511 cards.  long since upgraded XR2 cards. Mike Hammett wrote: This is the first I've heard of N-Streme working on Prism. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/28/2010 12:11 PM, Blair Davis wrote: Works on Prism, but ALL

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Depends on the state. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/6/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs >> around h

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Blair Davis
The 433 is more than adequate for 2 cards for a low usage repeater... Josh Luthman wrote: Are you saying you have two radios in the 433? Are they the same band? The 411 and 433 share the same horsepower, in case anyone didn't recognize that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Oh, hell yes, my brother! - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. 900.OFDMI can't sleep

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offendanyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting withminimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread MDK
Opinion: It won't be good. Also, the "financial reform" currently contains a provision that requires ANY contract that can be construed as "credit" extended to your customer be approved by an as yet not created federal agency. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet eas

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West wrote: > I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the > ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. > > UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. > > Bob

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I've not run any XR2, actually. Probably should. I think the next one we do one in a few weeks I will try it out. I've used the wlm54ag a bunch. Pac antennas. I've not had any more or less success with others. Comet with 3* downtilt seemed a bit less then Pac's big one (12dbi?) but the custome

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-234

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
I looked it over MANY times but the price and limitations made me think twice. As someone already mentioned, see Butch. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer > Anybody using this

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent:

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
What omini are you using, Josh? Running 2.4 on the Tik boxes with the XR2? Just interested in the setup on your end. Sounds like a winner. Bo- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP Mos

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread tim wolfe
I've had a NetEq box running for over 3 years. It is a plug and play setup and does a great job if you like the hands off sorta thing. The bad side is the licensing and the upgrading policy. IT STINKS!. If you buy a unit that is only 3 months old off of Ebay, you can forget support. There was a

Re: [WISPA] WAS: Netequilizer NOW Bandwidth Shaping

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
Bandwidth Shaping can be as hard or as easy as you want to make it - (ok maybe not that ... ) If you are friendly with Linux and IPTables - there are Free solutions Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO - http://lartc.org/lartc.html Traffic Control using tcng and HTB HOWTO - http://ww

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
And I'm sure it can probably prioritize voip traffic. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:58 PM, "Mike" wrote: > For some networks, NetEq is a good solution. I've had one on my > network for > a few years. It was before Butch came up with his solution. It was > a real > lifesaver fo

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Two 750g's is the extent of my MT knowledge so maybe it can. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Why can't MT do that? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, fail

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Mike
For some networks, NetEq is a good solution. I've had one on my network for a few years. It was before Butch came up with his solution. It was a real lifesaver for us; it kept any users from monopolizing the pipe at the peril of others. One major caveat, unless they've changed it, it only plays

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > Cisco rout

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: > Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. > > MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. > > A Pentium 4 with 2GB

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread RickG
What about this --> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=551 ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Anyone? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > -

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chis

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I have heard that Butch's template is just as good if not better an alternative (currently MT, soon to be *nix/ImageStream). I've used MT/IS and not touch NetEq. I doubt I ever will. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not f

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Glenn Kelley
I have not been that pleased with the NetEQ you can do much more with other products ... vyatta, or microtek I believe as well - Check out Butch Evans stuff - he might be able to help On May 6, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set o

Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Chuck Profito
Butch Evans will be much, MUCH cheaper. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 05:24:46PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs > around here. As wireless gear gets faster and faster while telco > provided service remains the same, the place for DSL is becoming less. > I won't disagree wit

[WISPA] Netequilizer

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join toda

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremie Chism
I am friends with a bell tech here and they have cut their field techs in half. He said they are losing access lines and dsl subs faster than he can count. I guess that is why they are offering dsl service without a phone line. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Stuart Pierce
Yea he did, he's probably on here watching all the fun and games in the Winter, he'll be riding in the Summer. -- Original Message -- From: Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 16:58:48 -0500 >I can't find the email now, but

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have verified with a spectrum analyzer you can run two cards stacked on top in a 433 in the same 5.8 band as long as the channels you are using are at complete opposite ends of the band. 5745 and 5825 and 20mhz channels and they will not bleed over. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm the exact opposite, I prefer the ECS (the one with the RJ-45) and hate the pass-through one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/30/2010 8:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I do have to tape the outside connections Mike. > > But instead of running

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: > I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and > over. Pays 10X in the long run. > > I prefer goo quality. :) > > I'll give it

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'll show you a Rocket M5 that has more capacity than entire DSLAMs around here. As wireless gear gets faster and faster while telco provided service remains the same, the place for DSL is becoming less. I won't disagree with your tool comment, but a hammer makes a better striking device than

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Usually 5.8 to the tower, and 5.2 for the repeater. I haven't done any repeaters like this since DFS. I do have a couple at 2.4. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/6/2010 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Are you saying you have two radios in the 433?

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
For 802.3af compliant . The 3Com Intellijack Series. Linksys / CISCO SLM2008 or SLM2005 *Catalyst 2960PD-8TT-L *Non-Standard POE powered capable. Mikrotik 750 / 750g other Mikrotik Boards Small Linksys Small Dlink (Using a poe injector kit) Does this help you ? Faisal On 5/6/2010 5:25 PM, G

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I can't find the email now, but Jer sold his wireless operations. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/28/2010 1:18 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > Larry , Shmary, he don't know jack about running a xISP. Just kidding, Larry > knows more about being an xISP

Re: [WISPA] MT PtP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
This is the first I've heard of N-Streme working on Prism. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/28/2010 12:11 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > Works on Prism, but ALL cards connected to AP must be Prism > > Josh Luthman wrote: >> Pretty sure it's just Atheros.

Re: [WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
There is already a thread about this on the moto list. What is the application? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu,

[WISPA] POE powered Switch?

2010-05-06 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you saying you have two radios in the 433? Are they the same band? The 411 and 433 share the same horsepower, in case anyone didn't recognize that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Most of my repeater sites are about $150 - $200 more than the CPE. I upgrade to a 433 from a 411, add another radio, bulkhead pigtail, jumper, cheap omni or sector. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/27/2010 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > All of my

Re: [WISPA] [OT] Chicken Currency

2010-05-06 Thread Jeff Broadwick
LOL, I still am sore that they wouldn't let us borrow their chicken picture (that was in Dallas)! Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Because dsl has more bandwidth available to it? It can let you bring extra capacity into relay sites, offload constant transfers, etc. Otherwise,I agree. The cost is crazy high (more then buying the same loop + net from the telco). Its a tool, use it where right. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM, M

Re: [WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure why WISPs resell DSL is any significant capacity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/26/2010 11:31 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: > CenturyLink has the worst billing system in the country. We resell DSL > through them, let me tell you its a nightm

Re: [WISPA] [OT] Chicken Currency

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I love that story. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/25/2010 12:24 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > 95% of the members of this list are probably not familiar with an old > WISPCON story that had to do with chickens being currency in Latvia and > how I

Re: [WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Bob Moldashel
Has anyone seen Marlon? :-P -B- Jeremy Parr wrote: > http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html > > A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. > > Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of the fire tower on old > U.S. 70 in Tuscarora. That road is currently shut down. > > Fire

Re: [WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Bret Clark
Well...now I know what the tech meant when he told me the signal should be smoking hot! On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 13:16 -0500, Jeremy Parr wrote: > http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html > > A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. > > Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of

[WISPA] Alright, whodunit?

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremy Parr
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/92972524.html A fire tower in Craven County is on fire. Smoke and some flames are coming out of the top of the fire tower on old U.S. 70 in Tuscarora. That road is currently shut down. Fire crews used a ladder truck to get water to the top of the tower, which i

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offend anyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting with minimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread Josh Luthman
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703961104575226583645448758.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, M

[WISPA] From Today's WSJ...hope this doesn't offend anyone...seems to be pretty straightforward reporting with minimal opinion

2010-05-06 Thread Jeff Broadwick
New U.S. Push to Regulate Internet Access By AMY SCHATZ WASHINGTON-In a move that will stoke a battle over the future of the Internet, the federal government plans to propose regulating broadband lines under decades-old rules designed for traditional phone networks. The decision, by Federal Commu