[WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent by the two cards, but if the impedance is not the right one. Indeed in the normal use with the antenna the impedance is not the same of using a direct cable from one card to

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
General List Subject: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent by the two cards, but if the impedance is not the right one. Indeed in the normal use with the antenna

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Cameron Crum
It should all be 50 ohms, but you would need a big attenuator inline. Cameron On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent by the

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
The receiver impedance should match the cable impedance (50 ohms) for best receiver performance which the manufacturers are all trying to get. Also if the cable has enough attenuation to not burn up the receiver at the far end then even if there is a mismatch at the receiver on the far end the

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
It should all be 50 ohms, but you would need a big attenuator inline. so, there should not be a impedance problem, right? a big attenuator...hum...what about a loong cable? ;) Bye -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
, 2010 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable well, why not? :) I don't know if the attenuator would change the impedance story. Why would you do that? for bench testing I could see using a section of Coax with an attenuator

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
We use the UNAT-30+ from Mini-Circuits (usually 3 stacked together) to test bad radios that come back, or for PtPs before we send them out. It has been helpful for tuning/benchmarking MikroTik wirelsss settings in a closed environment.

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable well, why not? :) I don't know if the attenuator would change the impedance story. Why would you do that? for bench testing I could see using a section of Coax with an attenuator inline. - Jerry -Original

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 08/30/2010 06:39 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can be a solution in some cases (yeah I know fiber, but as I said I was

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
arcnet, dude... - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable On 08/30/2010 06:39 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: well, just

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can be a solution in some cases (yeah I

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Mike
, August 30, 2010 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread paolo . difrancesco
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable OK, now I get what you are after. 75ohm cable will cause an impedance mismatch resulting is much higher losses that 50 ohm cable of the same length. You can add a transformer that will match 50 Ohm

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Mike
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable Well the fun starts with 2 cables and mimo cards, meaning more than 100Mbits at distances much higher than 100m. In theory it's 300Mbps halfduplex , but I guess it's

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread RickG
] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable On 08/30/2010 06:39 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can be a solution in some cases