Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/16/17 9:39 AM, Vance Shipley wrote: > > Sure they did. What would you do if a "customer" (from your perspective) > said to you that they were special and you shouldn't charge them anything? > > A) you would ignore them, or B) you would give them a price. Either way > it's your choice, at

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Rowell Dionicio
I agree. Prioritizing VoIP is to provide a better quality phone call for the user. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:17 AM Marco Coelho wrote: > There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another > (VOIP vs FTP). It leads to a better quality of service for the end user. > Where t

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Jared Brown
On December 16, 2017, "Vance Shipley" wrote: > ... however if you agree that you'll save money on your upstream and want to > install a shared cost, meet in the middle, peering with > Netflix (Google, Amazon, Acme startup, ...) you've created a "fast lane" and > are now the enemy of ignorant ne

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Right. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Vance Shipley" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:21:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutr

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
It was my first time in studio, Was kind of fun From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points There

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Vance Shipley
s://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Vance Shipley" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:02:00 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points > > &

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:02:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points "You" are an ISP of any size but think of the current context of a WISP. "They" are some party who wants access to your network subscr

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Vance Shipley
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Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
al List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:39:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points On Dec 16, 2017 22:53, "Mike Hammett" < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > wrote: They wanted paid peering and they got paid peering. NN didn't have any effect on th

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread tim
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another (VOIP

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Vance Shipley
On Dec 16, 2017 22:53, "Mike Hammett" wrote: They wanted paid peering and they got paid peering. NN didn't have any effect on that. The FCC specifically said they didn't understand how all that stuff works and didn't regulate Sure they did. What would you do if a "customer" (from your perspecti

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:26:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points Legally there is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, O

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Legally there is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2017 12:17 PM, "Marco Coelho" wrote: > There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another > (VOIP vs FTP). It leads to a better quality of service

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
y, December 16, 2017 11:17:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another (VOIP vs FTP). It leads to a better quality of service for the end user. Where this was going sideways earlier was when the big IS

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-16 Thread Marco Coelho
There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another (VOIP vs FTP). It leads to a better quality of service for the end user. Where this was going sideways earlier was when the big ISP companies were going to charge Netflix and Hulu directly if they wanted priority on their ba

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Yes but do you prioritize vonage over ooma??? -Sean [Sent from mobile] > On Dec 15, 2017, at 6:33 PM, James Wilson wrote: > > Don't we prioritize VoIP? > >> On Dec 15, 2017 4:04 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: >> This is fantastic. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-23

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-15 Thread James Wilson
Don't we prioritize VoIP? On Dec 15, 2017 4:04 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > This is fantastic. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-15 Thread Josh Luthman
This is fantastic. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > For your use, re-posted from last week: > > > *Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet > Freedom” * > >

[WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

2017-12-15 Thread Mark Radabaugh
For your use, re-posted from last week: *Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet Freedom” * December 2017 *Overview for WISPA Members * ** ·These talking points are _not_ intended to be used proactively. WISPA is not taking a proactive role in advocacy on this i