Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-14 Thread Patrick Leary
Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? I use axxcelera 3650 gear without diversity. Obviously there are certain limitations but I have customers with cpe units that are completely non line of sight (over a building

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-14 Thread Patrick Leary
. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Patrick, Always great

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Too many lists just fragment the conversation. Many including myself just don't feel like joining a bunch of lists. Ultimately, if WISPA is trying to move the value of the lists to just members then they should just make the existing list, members only and be done with. -Matt On Sep 12,

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread Brad Belton
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Too many lists just fragment the conversation. Many including myself just don't feel like joining a bunch of lists. Ultimately, if WISPA is trying to move the value of the lists to just members then they should just make the existing list, members

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Agreed. Too many lists devalues the content due to smaller pools of information (people) to pull from. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread richard sterne
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Agreed.  Too many lists devalues the content due to smaller pools

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread Jeremie Chism
I use axxcelera 3650 gear without diversity. Obviously there are certain limitations but I have customers with cpe units that are completely non line of sight (over a building and through trees) at 2 miles that reliably do 10 Meg symetrical links. Once you get a good cinr number you are

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-13 Thread Gino Villarini
I assume youre using 10 MHz channels How's the latency? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I use axxcelera 3650 gear without diversity. Obviously there are certain limitations but I have customers with cpe units that are

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Tom, 802.16d implementations can and do support diversity antennas on the AUs. I don't know the definitive answer to the rest of the question. But I do know that: (1) Clients in 802.16e can and do support diversity (2) The clients are supposed to be interoperable (3) I know of no clients

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Heads up thread - Jack made a new list for 3.650 topics specifically. On 9/12/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tom, 802.16d implementations can and do support diversity antennas on the AUs. I don't know the definitive answer to the rest of the question. But I do know

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-12 Thread Rubens Kuhl
A members-only list, so if people don't mind to keep it going on this list instead of the closed one... Rubens On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Heads up thread - Jack made a new list for 3.650 topics specifically. On 9/12/09, Chuck Bartosch

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Yeah, I saw that. I do have to ask why? though. I hope we don't start having separate groups for 900, for 2.4, for the 5 ghz region, etc. I understand a BTOP/BIP group and a fiber group because clearly a lot of people aren't going to be interested in those topics. But dividing groups up by

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Ah. I never quite remember that: the WISP list is for WISPA members only, while the WISPA list is for any WISP. Definitely clever naming ;-). cough Still, I wish they'd change that since us not-so-clever people would expect the reverse! Anyway, I generally support moving some of this

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Patrick, Always great to see your list posts filled with good info. Responses inline... The E standard does enable use of diversity, but it comes at a high cost and is of limited benefit for rural operators. The truth is that diversity is designed to increase link budgets to support

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Amen from the peanut gallery Bret. You'd find interesting the, ahem, discussion taking place between us and the big guys inside the WiMAX Forum board room. I think it is fair to say some are dillusional about the LTE. Maybe I would be too if I'd bet my entire company

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-10 Thread jp
: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Amen from the peanut gallery Bret. You'd find interesting the, ahem, discussion taking place between us and the big guys inside

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-10 Thread Rubens Kuhl
It is time the Forum own up to their own words, so Aperto is going to asking the question at 4G World coming up in Chicago next week. The fact is, the fixed standard is stable and ideal for what it was designed to do: deliver fixed (and limited nomadicity) wireless broadband. This version of

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-10 Thread os10rules
...@apertonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Amen from the peanut gallery Bret. You'd find interesting the, ahem, discussion taking place between us and the big guys inside the WiMAX Forum board room

[WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
The subject question is one Aperto thinks should be asked and now is the time to ask it. The WiMAX Forum has been beating the 802.16e drum in a manner trying to chump 802.16d. The fact is, there are two WiMAX standards, not one. By the Forum's own words from a 2005 paper it put out in November

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? The subject question is one Aperto thinks should be asked and now is the time to ask it. The WiMAX Forum has been beating the 802.16e drum in a manner trying to chump 802.16d. The fact

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Im 802.16c, C as in Canopy Ducking!!! Hello Patrick! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread 3-dB Networks
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? And you know that is fine. Just tired of the goofy drum beat for E. Even though we are building E too, my

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Tim Sylvester
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? I look forward to seeing everyone at 4G World next week. Personally, I don't care for D or E in a fixed deployment, but if you nailed me down I

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Matt Liotta
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? I look forward to seeing everyone at 4G World next week. Personally, I don't care for D or E in a fixed deployment, but if you nailed me down I would go with D. WiMAX tries to be too many things for too many people. WiMAX-based proprietary systems

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread 3-dB Networks
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:53 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? What part of the 3650 rules make E not supportable? Tim

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Patrick

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Matt Liotta
3:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? E is only really useful for mobile and mobile is not supportable with the current 3650 rules. -Matt On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.comwrote: I would like to see more

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Tim Sylvester
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Nothing as far as I know... but the lower power limits and the higher frequency don't make it too feasible. If you have to be within 1/4 mile of the tower to make mobility work... it seems like your going to spend a lot

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Bret Clark
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? I look forward to seeing everyone at 4G World next week. Personally, I don't care for D or E in a fixed deployment, but if you nailed me down I would

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:53 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? What part of the 3650 rules make E not supportable? Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
mobile From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? The 802.16e standard was a gallant effort

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Amen from the peanut gallery Bret. You'd find interesting the, ahem, discussion taking place between us and the big guys inside the WiMAX Forum board room. I think it is fair to say some are dillusional about the LTE. Maybe I

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Paul Rice
Amen Brother! -- From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? ..and what's worse is even if E did take off, most

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Leary
. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Patrick

Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?

2009-09-09 Thread Gino Villarini
787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? By the way, it will also be interesting to see what