Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
Maybe 5 years ago. Not now. How old is this info they are getting Not a surprise though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
high winds in excess of 40 miles an hour with 2 parbolics on 1 10 foot section of 2 inch EMT. But it is soft, so you might want to get heavier pipe for piece of mind ------ From: "Robert West" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
ireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Maybe 5 years ago. Not now. How old is this info they are getting Not

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
t: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Robert West wrote: > My competitor here uses 1.25" EMT condu

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Robert West wrote: > No, it's like this crude ASCII rendering. > He puts a

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
points. >> Perhaps I am missing something... >> >> ASCII art of what I am thinking below. >> >> >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >>___/ &

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don’t! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. Too many people out to "gotcha". And the ones who ask to see our liability insurance befor

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
ct: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions > >http://www.ronard.com/730731.html > >A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable... > >Probably overkill. > >Ronard makes really good stuff. > > >Robert West wrote: >> [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG] >>

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
he soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition > inspired, and success achieved. > - Helen Keller > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM &g

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
I knew it! That "Geek Squad" really IS a secret arm of the government! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give Presiden

Re: [WISPA] Bill proposed to give President Emergencey Contol of Interent

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
Oh, and I can just imagine the quality of people who would be picked for investigation and enforcement. A group of people making better than minimum wage, computer experience is that their cousin once gave them a computer. Give them a badge and some power.. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Robert West
I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using X

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Robert West
st be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Robert West wrote: > I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 > mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of > that running right over a

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
; Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM > To: '

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
o:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert West wrote: > Why horizontal polarity?  Cause I&#x

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
hz question > But look at all the experience you are gaining :) > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert West > wrote: >> Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz >> and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on this??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate B

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-03 Thread Robert West
Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, September 03,

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-04 Thread Robert West
4:23 AM, Frank wrote: > The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet > > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Robert West > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM > > Nicola Tesla had the idea back in

Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-05 Thread Robert West
know kids would learn morse > code in order to become superior texters. > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: >> That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text >> messaging. >> It's been proven that a person using Mo

Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications

2009-09-11 Thread Robert West
If it's a long flight they could burn some internet to a dual layer DVD. But I thought Bill Curtis already found the internet on the plane with his AT&T netbook and the AT&T G4 network??? I was SURE that's what he told me. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:w

[WISPA] Customer to Bandwidth Ratio

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
stomers on it and if I do a speed test the pings are fast, 32 or so, but it's really "jerky" on the download and uploads. So.. What is a good REAL WORLD ratio that you use that is smooth? Thanks! Robert West Just M

[WISPA] Comet Antennas

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
I was looking for a decent 2.4GHz Omni for some small AP's I'm in the process of setting up in our outlying areas with low population density and came across these Comet antennas over at wlanparts. Has anyone had any experience with these? At a little over 100 bucks, worth it or not? Price doesn

[WISPA] UBNT AirMax World Conference

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
hem 10 bucks to come inside... The possibilities are endless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. Sent from my PC because I don't own a BlackBerry and not one handed because I type with two fingers. (It's Saturday) ---

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax World Conference

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
ions to Chicago for less than $89/pp? On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Robert West wrote: > Okay, so I got an email from UBNT about the AirMax World Conference in > Chicago. The bait is a FREE Rocket5 for EVERYONE who attends?? Of course > the small print, "*While supplies last,

Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax World Conference

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
g] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax World Conference Not to mention the fact we all expect it to be difficult to order more Ubnt gear half the time. On 9/12/09, Robert West wrote: > Hey, it's only a

Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?)

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
Those marketing photos sure look pretty though. They might also explain why I keep seeing installs done just like the pictures. I had a bit of an argument a few weeks ago on the UBNT forums with some folks defending using indoor patch cable outside and not wrapping connectors. It started with so

Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?)

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
urday, September 12, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?) Wait why would patch cables look better then shielded cable and connectors..? On 9/12/09, Robert West wrote: > Those marketing photos sure look pretty thoug

Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?)

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX Are You?) As opposed to pretty rainbow colors? On 9/12/09, Robert West wrote: > Nice pretty and shiny PVC makes for a better picture in a variety of colors! > All the outdoor shielded cable we've eve

Re: [WISPA] Comet Antennas

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
esting >> in >> our old WISP showed them to outperform the Pac's we had elsewhere. >> >> I personally generally recommend the GP-24-3... which is 12dBi with 3 >> degrees of downtilt >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> http://www

Re: [WISPA] Vendors eating their dogfood (was Re: Which WiMAX AreYou?)

2009-09-12 Thread Robert West
flooding, no shielding, just UV protected cable. It's all I normally need and I've been doing this for a few years. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Robert West" Sent: Saturday, S

Re: [WISPA] [Btop-bip] BIP / BTOP Applications are online

2009-09-14 Thread Robert West
Where will the Executive Summaries be posted, what area? I too am interested in seeing some of the content of the applications. - Original Message - >From: St. Louis Broadband >To: 'WISPA General List' >Cc: 'WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List' >Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:21 PM >S

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

2009-09-15 Thread Robert West
I've been installing pac grids with the 5ghz version of the new Bullet, the 5hp, and it's been darn stable. Could it be something in the Airmax or the 2ghz??? Dunno. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent

[WISPA] Rohn 25G Tower Jack

2009-09-15 Thread Robert West
Anyone have a Rohn 25G tower jack they no longer need? Gotta take one down, need a jack but would rather buy a used one from a member before shelling out some jack to Champion radio. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services inc. Sent from my PC cause I'm too poor for a Blackberr

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
Using the same coax as you have been using? Any new guys crimping the connectors??? Something has to be different. Might be the signal jumps when the wind blows? check the connections, maybe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@w

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
In our case, our competitor applied for a shade under a million bucks to provide middle mile into the area, as in to bring cheaper broadband to the masses. That doesn't sound like it will benefit us, the cheaper broadband is for their system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@

Re: [WISPA] Need Lightning Arrestor Advice

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
For us, we also do an arrestor before the radio, a gas discharge unit. We also use an arrestor before the POE injector and anyplace else a cable enters a structure or piece of equipment. We use shielded and flooded Cat5 cable with a static drain wire attached to shielded cat5 connectors and also

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
ck On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Robert West wrote: > In our case, our competitor applied for a shade under a million > bucks to > provide middle mile into the area, as in to bring cheaper broadband > to the > masses. That doesn't sound like it will benefit us, the cheape

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
I've heard the same thing over in the Mikrotik forums. The solution they had is the same as Josh here says. It tends to fall on its face at times although I never tried it for myself. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
he impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Robert West wrote: > I've heard the same thing over in the Mikrotik forums. The solution they > had is the same as Josh here says. It tends to f

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
Looks nice. Thanks Butch! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:23 -0400, Josh Lut

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-19 Thread Robert West
Okay, so for the grant they MUST provide the bandwidth for the same price they are paying for it??? But are they then able to throw a bunch of BS fees on top of it? If they have to provide at the same price, then it's not bad but I suspect it will be more cumbersome. -Original Message-

[WISPA] 2.4 Sector Recommendations

2009-09-19 Thread Robert West
Looking for recommendations for 2.4ghz sector antennas, cheap of course. Thanks! Robert West WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-19 Thread Robert West
Another unfunded mandate. If I were to provide net neutral broadband the price would be $120 per meg. Maybe my customers would understand if I explained how it's net neutral. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Saturday, Se

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
k management policies are allowed. > > Robert West wrote: >> Another unfunded mandate. If I were to provide net neutral broadband the >> price would be $120 per meg. Maybe my customers would understand if I >> explained how it's net neutral. >> >> >> &

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
t neutrality is about remaining a free nation. What's not to like about that? Josh Luthman wrote: Who's definition of unreasonable... On 9/19/09, Jack Unger <mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: The proposal doesn't say you have to provide unlimited bandwidth. Reaso

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
p and with the DD-WRT, they are much more configurable. Robert West Just Micro digital Services Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Never saw that one. Looks to be the thing! Would be my pick. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions Rb75

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
s, it's been broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------ From: "Robert West" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rout

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each. They use the Ralink chip. A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the ones I still have. Mine are black, not white. Small though. The driver also supports 5ghz so I thought maybe the ralink chip supported both and the

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
You got it. Good in a pinch but not for customers. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions So no more than a

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
rote: > Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's > been > broken. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > Fro

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Hot glue in the reset hole and a bit of black tape over it hides it enough to discourage the resets. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com;

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Who do you use as a distributor? We used to go with Ma-Labs but their prices crept up too high on most of the things we purchased. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:19 A

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
e been to a network had Linksys, it's > > been > > broken. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > >

[WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big co

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
rs and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West wrote: > Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an > area I've been trying to find access in a

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: > Does anyo

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I wonder how many large companies have paid their employees to be volunteers??? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus p

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
That's the one I have issue with. That would cause me to think I need a 1 to 1 ratio on bandwidth or at least close to it. This one item brings the cause for metered bandwidth to the top of my list of things to push for. Honestly, I'd rather not meter the bandwidth just for the sake of image but

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Isn't the 28th amendment the right to keep and bear firewalls? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
at and how do you block specific content. Thats for the hosting companies, not the access providers. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West wrote: > Isn't the 28th amendment the right to keep and bear firewalls? > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Limiting the number of packets would indeed be the neutral way, in my opinion. But what problems would that cause with Voip and video? You certainly have to give priority to Voip. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
gotiate a lower price for colocation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Robert West" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Cast

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Well, you know some of those virus's may be important to the person who is downloading them. Who am I to judge? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:01 PM To: sarn...@in

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
ot;. > > > > > > > > Mike Hammett wrote: > > > > > > > > What I don't like about it is another case of the government telling me what to do. More regulations is less freedom. If someone doesn't like the way ISP A operates, move to ISP B. If th

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
> > > > another ISP if the first ISP doesn't like what they have to say and > > > > shuts them off. Further, even if you have more than one ISP, how are you > > > > going to get the news or get your opinions out if BOTH ISPs (or ALL > > > > ISPs) disagree with

Re: [WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Okay, there is no list of sites. We are also a retail computer repair shop and we have been dealing with this program for over a year now. The story is, it's first job is to see if you design websites. If you do and you use something like FrontPage, it will steal your login info, go to your site

Re: [WISPA] OT: Rouge antispyware

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
OpenDNS won't block it. I run OpenDNS and still come across it because it infects the sites you are trying to open. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:20 PM To: sarn...@info-

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I think that's an excellent idea! At least for the wireless side of things where we have to run things tight. We are a bit of a different animal from Comcast and Time Warner. Hell, some of us use them as the upstream provider! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [m

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
; > > > > There are really two different issues in play here. Conflating them > > > > > > under the banner of free speech does not address both issues adequately. > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > >

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
But why wait for the FCC? Why not be pro-active? We already know our concerns and we could at least list the ways we would like to see this type of thing designed. To just react to something isn't being the leader. We should be at the front of this thing. At least that's what I feel I should

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I've been trying to get around to FreeRADIUS. Do you use that, Josh? I've been looking at Radius Manager as well and have the download but have yet to do a darn thing with any of it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jo

Re: [WISPA] The Net Neutrality speech we've all been waiting for

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Uh.. That seems to be double speak. Isn't putting priority on something de-prioritizing the things under it? That's government for you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 21, 200

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Robert West wrote: > Why do you put superhotstuffhere.com as 8? Some of us count on that every > morning

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:36 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods > > I've been trying to get around to FreeRADI

Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Yikes! Money well spent, I must say! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods We have PowerRouter 732s

Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
I should start an anti-social networking site where people could be my enemy. What do you think? A money maker??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:22 PM To: WISPA Gene

Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Robert West wrote: > I should start an anti-social networking site where people could be my > enemy. > > What do you think? A money maker??? > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Julius Genachowski must have been reading your mind because today he announced a brand new website called Open Internet.gov . You could go there as an individual and start contributing your constructive suggestions immediately. jack Robert West wrote: > But why wait for the FCC? Why no

Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=ts>or follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/dcaccess> /* Robert West wrote: > I can host it along side my Amish Personal Ads Dating site. > > Another money making idea! > > > > -Original Message- > From: wi

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
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Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Okay. Isn't this what most of us already do in our Terms Of Service notice? So if it's just a matter of notification then the issue would be void on day one as far as traffic shaping is concerned. Am I right on my understanding of this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
r 22, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality something about salvia leaves. some sort of euphoric mind altering substance. --C Robert West wrote: > I'm not looking. I will assume the site promotes super efficient heating > devices. > >

Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
ay, September 22, 2009 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Facebook fan page Robert, I enjoy your humor while some may not understand it. -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Robert West wrote: > Uh..  I do not recall making any snide comments or any comments > w

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
ing the way in which they choose to communicate >> > >> > is somewhat disingenuous. >> > >> > >> > >> > There are really two different issues in play here. Conflating them >> > >> > under the banner of free speech does not address b

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
otentially losing good customers (ie low bandwidht customers) because they can't get bit torrent to work when they try to use it twice a month. -Clint Ricker On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Robert West wrote: > Okay. Isn't this what most of us already do in our Terms Of Service >

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
(including access to ALL internet applications) to your ideal customers. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Robert West wrote: > So what I think you're saying, we should restrict the user based on a > predetermined usage limit then kick the throttling in for the entire > connection, not per

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
That's Time Warner fiber with 15 public IPs. I totally acknowledge how lucky we are to have such a rate here. We are actually to have some cheaper fiber coming into the area which I'll try to snag as a secondary access or maybe even primary and dump the snail pace DSL. I will not gloat, I feel f

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
You doing Time Warner as a provider as well? We are in an old Adelphia area and they had to install an entire new network which is probably why the cost is lower. That and we're on the edge of Appalachia, they probably get some sort of incentive to provide cheaper in this area. -Original

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Okay. Who are these IT experts? I'll offer them a deal. They provide my bandwidth and I'll be generous and pay them a nice percentage over their price for that virtually nothing cost access. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On B

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
le, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert West wrote: > That's Time Warner fiber with 15 public IPs. I totally acknowledge how > lucky we are to have such a rate here. We are actually to have

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
r Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Robert West wrote: > Ah! Now that's cool! They charge me $15.00 for more IP's but will go to > 10 > bucks if I buy a block of 50. I don't because for one, I'm cheap and > another is because I'm cheap. As in, w

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
It's the same here. Starting at 20 meg but going up to 50 is just a little more. No need for that right now on my end but it only takes a phone call and it's on. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesda

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Can you send me some of that in a FedEx mailer? I'll pay the shipping! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

Re: [WISPA] customer bandwidth ratio

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Hey, it works! Thanks, Marion. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] customer bandwidth ratio OK, we have the graphs

Re: [WISPA] customer bandwidth ratio

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Yeah, but he charges by the mb. Funny how they play differently when the meter is running. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WI

[WISPA] Organite defense

2009-09-22 Thread Robert West
Anyone else tired of these do-gooders and their organite gifting of your towers? Here I am, minding my own business and they come and place this darned organite near my tower, messing up all the funny shaped clouds I've been working so hard to create for the government and their secret weather con

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-23 Thread Robert West
One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold. The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe. Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same network, which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to touch the internet at least in part.

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