Up-coming EDUCAUSE Annual Conference reminders -- Session Leader Opportunity

2017-10-19 Thread Brian Helman
Everyone, Two things: One of the co-presenter/moderators for the Annual Conference Wireless-LAN Session on 11/2 had a change in travel plans and will be unable to attend the conference. So, if you've ever wanted to stand up in front of a hundred or so of your peers and talk about wireless

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Chuck Enfield
While I agree with all the justifications offered below, I don’t recommend going there if you can avoid it. If somebody wants to challenge a business case based on those things there will be plenty of opportunity to do that. I value a good business case more than most, but a determined

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Thomas Carter
As Brian said, it is nice in theory; the reality is you don’t get the capital increase or the personnel. Thomas Carter Network & Operations Manager / IT Austin College 900 North Grand Avenue Sherman, TX 75090 Phone: 903-813-2564 www.austincollege.edu From: The

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Brian Helman
Or, spend 30+% in capital investment vs adding more workload to existing staff to track down rogue devices – which is probably more on par with what the bulk of our realities are. I am being pressured to support IoT devices over the previous -72dB/2.4GHz AP-in-hallways design with little to no

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
The way to present that 30+% increase in capital investment is to talk about the FTE resources it frees up, caps, or eliminates i.e. by increasing density the need for residential life/IT to police personal devices is significantly reduced/eliminated, freeing up or eliminating [x]FTE for other

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Nero, Jason
It does suck, but it’s the cost of offering wireless service these days. My justification would be looking at my opex spend to legislate/track down/remove/block/etc these unwanted devices on an ongoing/yearly basis. Take that cost over the lifetime of the APs. If it’s greater than the capex

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Thomas Carter
You’re correct, but it just sucks that we now have to justify a 30+% increase in capital spent on wireless infrastructure for something that (at least according to those who manage the budgets) worked fine 5 years ago, AKA why do you need to put 50 APs in a building that once had 30? Thomas

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
If you move your design planning toward dense 5GHz and designate 2.4 as a legacy wasteland, these devices have little impact. Even if these devices more toward 5GHz, the abundance of channels coupled with low signal propagation and vendor channel management e.g. DCA in Cisco speak, greatly

RE: Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Thomas Carter
We were just having this conversation in-house this morning. The problem isn't APs - its printers, TVs, Rokus, Amazon Fire TVs, Playstations, etc. We don't have the people to manage the quantity that are out there (probably 1 in 4 or 5 rooms have something broadcasting). They don't realize

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Scott Bertilson
and there's always the peer-pressure approach of telling them that their device acting as an AP is messing up wireless coverage for them and their neighbors. and perhaps letting neighbors know through res-life why there is a problem if they're nearby. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Hales,

RE: Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Hales, David
Our residence hall policy and campus acceptable use policy specify that students are not allowed to connect routers, switches, or access points to the wired network, or operate independent wireless access points in campus facilities. Our NAC and switches are able to handle any that get plugged

Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls

2017-10-19 Thread Davis, Steve
I wanted to get an idea how everyone is handling students bringing in all types of wireless devices, which are basically access points. We have so many printers, TVs, Roku devices, game systems and who knows what else out there in the student rooms and these devices are causing issues with our

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Big flaw in WPA2

2017-10-19 Thread Jake Snyder
You have more faith in the WFA than I. I’m sure our next houses will be Wi-Fi certified Krack-Free. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) > wrote: > > The specification, like many, was vague in implementation details

RE: Big flaw in WPA2

2017-10-19 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
The specification, like many, was vague in implementation details and practically all vendors chose a poor, insecure design. The only claw in WPA2 was vagueness in the specification. I understand the Wi-Fi Alliance is working on remedying that as well as specifically testing for KRACK in its