Hi Robert,
I totally agree with you. I'm just not that worried about efficiency in
my applications. The reason that I don't like PHP is because it's a
lower level language. :) I prefer the higher level the better since it
reduces my coding time.
Stefan
At 03:03 PM 10/24/2008, you wrote:
I agr
I agree that RoR is getting better all of the time, and if you enjoy
coding in it and it meets your needs, then go for it.
One thing to add, and kind of an add on to what scott said, just
because you use a specific language doesn't mean your app is more
efficient. You can create innefiicien
Just to further the "alternatives" and "one size does NOT fit all": some of
our sites use a combination of ColdFusion and PHP. The charting in CF is
wonderful. The graphic manipulation in PHP is wonderful (and other "good
things" from both of them).
Beverly
On 10/24/08 2:09 PM, "Stefan Gonick" <
With all this discussion on porting, I have to say
That the big advantage that witango has is it's IDE.
I would love to continue to use it but be able to
Export the taf XML to other languages.
I think Phil should concentrate on dev of the IDE only
And drop the server.
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Hi Scott and Robert,
I agree that it really depends on the types of clients and applications that we
are developing for. I don't build super high traffic sites. My
clients also don't
care what language I use. I agree that RoR is limited for high traffic sites.
That is true for Witango as well.
Hi Robert,
I've heard the same things about Ruby, it doesn't scale well.
Likewise, I have another axiom I measure by: The easier a language or
platform can be programmed, the slower or less extensible that
platform or application becomes.
The same rule even applies to ASP.NET, if you use t
Hi Stefan,
I apologize if my comments were not received well. I guess I just
measure the viability of a language or tool by a different yard-stick.
I may work in a different arena than some of us, and I should be
careful about that when giving advice.
To explain, I try to steer clear of m
One comment about Ruby on Rails. When I made my switchover, I
evaluated many languages, and RoR was on the short list. It seemed
very exciting, and I watched a lot of presentations, installed it
played with it, etc.
However, 1 issue I had with witango was that even though you had load
gro
That is well said, and I think another lesson is don't make the same
mistake twice. I don't have any problem with ColdFusion, great tool.
But I steered away from a company owned proprietary method for a
large, open language with a lot of momentum. I hope I never have to
make that decision a
Hi Scott,
I do agree that ColdFusion is probably still viable. It's just not a
vibrantly growing platform. It's probably safe to switch to that language
though, and I agree that it would be the easiest to switch to from Witango
of all of the other languages.
I take issue with the idea that RoR is
Hi Stefan,
Just a quick comment here, in my experience ColdFusion seems alive and
well in the Corporate Intranet world. I see it all the time, including
lots of new big projects.
In fact, if I ever got bored enough with ASP.NET I might go back to
learning it all over again. I actually did
Hi All,I just recently converted some of my apps over from Witango to PHP. Here's what I found:-1. Apache is a breeze2. MySQL work great3. myphpadmin is good4. You need a PHP debugger ... I used Eclipse (free) but Zend, Nusphere or whatever may be better5. There's no Visual DEv Tool that works (not
Hi John,
You're right on track. Ben and I proposed this very idea years ago,
but alas it didn't go anywhere.
It's a shame too, because obviously server technologies are very set
these days. It's either Java, .NET based, PHP or ColdFusion. The
occasional radical comes along like Ruby or Py
Hi Janet,
How come Witango shielded me from all of these languages?
I know Witango is an XML code generator so why isn't there any other
products creating XML? I am asking the wrong question?
So if Witango is not PHP or C+ or whatever what is it?
Is it just XML?
If so then why don’t I see ot
Witango is Witango...
It just happens to XML as a medium for storing the programming logic.
Underneath the XML is a language, just one that you would never write by
hand... unless you were insane...
Which was a cool idea, and completely underutilized. You could do so many
cool things with it bec
Ditto Mark and Scott. You will find that these are all very similar. The
advantage for Witango (and why we probably all got there)? THE EDITOR. You
may not find the WYSIWYGs for PHP (I don't care much for the ZEND method,
either) or other web apps. Coldfusion used to have one, but only on Windows.
Hi Webdude,
I did a lot of research on alternative languages to Witango. I
personally really
didn't like ASP and PHP, so I ruled those out for me. I ultimately settled on
2 languages: ColdFusion and Ruby on Rails.
If you want to get up to speed as quickly and easily as possible on a new
langua
Thank you for your nice comments Mark, and for having such a good
memory :-)
> Starting over again is refreshing, invigorating, keeps you young
and is really quite satisfying.
Janet, Dude and any others who are trying or waiting to make these
potentially career altering decisions, take Ma
On 10/24/08 1:26 AM, "Mark "Hawk" Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole
or in part:
> It isn't that hard, until you want to get to the finer points. I
> started first by installing MAMP on my mac. It installed just as
> advertised and I was able to get my feet wet on my laptop at my leisure.
So if Witango is not PHP or C+ or whatever what is it?
Is it just XML?
If so then why don't I see other products that are XML?
I ask this because when I was looking at other RAD tools they all seem to
end up with PHP, VB, or C+ or something but not XML.
Wow talk about getting back to basics
This would be way cool. Tackling php objects now. Examples would so
very much be appreciated.
Thanks x 10,000 Robert.
Mikal Anderson
PDX
On 10/24/2008 12:09 AM, Robert Garcia wrote:
I will be posting a way to build a class in PHP with what I would call
witango objects. Functions and such th
I was using fedora, but when CentOS caught up with mysql 5, I started
using it, we are on CentOS 5.2.
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I will be posting a way to build a class in PHP with what I would call
witango objects. Functions and such that mimic witango tags, to help
port. I should be able to start posting code examples this weekend. I
won't be posting them on the list, because they just get lost on the
list. I will
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