Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-09-18 Thread Bruce Cran
That's another feature I'm hoping to implement: Burn should support 'Modifying' the installation, displaying the options page during maintenance. -- Bruce Sent from my iPhone On 16 Sep 2013, at 15:59, Steven Ogilvie steven.ogil...@titus.com wrote: Did I send you updated code? Different

Re: [WiX-users] help! how do I install .net 4.5 from my installer ?

2013-09-18 Thread nkshirsagar
Hi, Thanks for the tips. I'm still confused .. The tutorial link you suggested says .. Step 1: Create a bundle for your application Follow the instructions in Building Installation Package Bundles Step 2: Add a reference to one of the .Net PackageGroups Add a reference to WixNetFxExtension to

[WiX-users] [WIX]: To Show only Internal MSI UI in EXE file?

2013-09-18 Thread dileep s
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Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread nkshirsagar
Hi Rob and others on the mailing list! I'm wondering the same thing. I have a minimal UI msi that I've customised slightly with logos and banners. I want this UI to run immediately instead of the first screen that the botstrapper UI shows. (licence agreement, etc). The licence agreement gets

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
So it is not currently supported? -Original Message- From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk] Sent: September-18-13 3:15 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-09-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On 18/09/2013 14:08, Steven Ogilvie wrote: So it is not currently supported? I don't think so. At least, the WixStdBA doesn't. -- Bruce Cran -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99!

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
Yes. You'd need to create a custom BA. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:27 AM, nkshirsagar nkshirsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob and others on the mailing list! I'm wondering the same thing. I have a minimal UI msi that I've customised slightly with logos and banners. I want this UI to run

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
There seems to be a lot of demand for more control over installer and bootstrapper UIs. Just out of curiosity, is this being worked on for future WiX releases? -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:27 To: General

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Hoover, Jacob
I believe the mantra is don't use installer UI's, use a BA UI. As such, if you need a custom UI then generate a BA to give the look and feel that you want. The reasoning behind having a BA UI is so you can have a single unified installation experience. Having a chain of 5 MSI's all exposing

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
It just seems like going from the stock BA to rolling your own custom BA just to either get rid of the UI or add a single text box, radio button, or window/step seems extremely costly in time and effort for what seems like a minor modification. -Original Message- From: Hoover, Jacob

Re: [WiX-users] help! how do I install .net 4.5 from my installer ?

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
PackageGroupRef Id=NetFx45Web/ will reference dotNetFx45_Full_setup.exe in your redist folder, and if it isn't there it will download it from Microsoft's servers (@ http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=225704). All of that is in WixNetFxExtension already written for you. The Product.wxs

Re: [WiX-users] Detecting a different product install

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
Please do not use a custom action to run the install if that other product is MSI-based. Add it to your Upgrade table and remove it that way. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:56:44 -0700 From: jack.sojo...@gmail.com To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Detecting a different

Re: [WiX-users] Execution order issue

2013-09-18 Thread John Ludlow
Be aware that if your custom action gets any properties, then you'll need to push those through by using CustomActionData. On 18 September 2013 19:07, Phil Wilson phildgwil...@gmail.com wrote: Your copy custom action is immediate - that means it will always happen before any files are

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Changing configuration and/or platform in solution - Configuration Manger does nothing

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
I believe there is already a bug open about this issue. MPF and Configuration editing don't seem to get along... or something like that. It's Votive. shrug/ On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Blair Murri os...@live.com wrote: I would think that that should just work. Please file a bug. From:

[WiX-users] FW: Detecting a different product install

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
Looping wix-users back into the conversation. From: os...@live.com To: jack.sojo...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Detecting a different product install Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:19:23 -0700 Add this to what you already have: Upgrade Id=theirupgradecode guid UpgradeVersion Minimum=0

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
The stock BA is open source. You don't need to start from scratch, just modify the stock one. -- Nicolás 2013/9/18 Alain Forget afor...@cmu.edu: It just seems like going from the stock BA to rolling your own custom BA just to either get rid of the UI or add a single text box, radio button,

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Is there a tutorial somewhere on where to get the stock BA's source, and how to make various changes to it? The only tutorial I found involved cracking open Visual Studio, and seemed to involve recompiling the whole source and...yeah, a big hurdle to jump. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WiX-users] Detecting a different product install

2013-09-18 Thread Jack Sojourn
It's a totally different product. I just want to remove it if its installed. My upgrade table looks like this... Upgrade Id=myupgradecode guid UpgradeVersion Minimum=1.0.0 Maximum=$(var.MAXVERSION) IncludeMinimum=yes IncludeMaximum=yes OnlyDetect=no

Re: [WiX-users] Execution order issue

2013-09-18 Thread Phil Wilson
Your copy custom action is immediate - that means it will always happen before any files are actually copied. If you need it to run after InstallFiles has physically copied files it should be marked deferred. Phil Wilson On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Kai Peters kpet...@otaksoft.com wrote:

Re: [WiX-users] Changing configuration and/or platform in solution - Configuration Manger does nothing

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
I would think that that should just work. Please file a bug. From: mri...@realtyim.com To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:53:18 + Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Changing configuration and/or platform in solution - Configuration Manger does nothing I'm not sure

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Changing configuration and/or platform in solution - Configuration Manger does nothing

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
I thought so to, but I couldn't find it. From: r...@robmensching.com Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:44:39 -0700 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Changing configuration and/or platform in solution - Configuration Manger does nothing I believe there is

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
On my 5 year old machine it takes 5 minutes to build all of the WiX toolset source. That isn't *that* long is it? Seems like a reasonable amount of time to build a project of our size. There is documentation in the WiX.chm with instructions how to build. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Alain

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
...and be sure to publish your changes because the code is weak copyleft open source. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: The stock BA is open source. You don't need to start from scratch, just modify the stock one. -- Nicolás 2013/9/18

Re: [WiX-users] Detecting a different product install

2013-09-18 Thread Phil Wilson
Is there some reason you can't do a major upgrade to remove it? If you know its UpgradeCode you can get it uninstalled. Phil Wilson On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jack Sojourn jack.sojo...@gmail.comwrote: Hello...I need to detect if a totally different product is installed and if so

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
I don't mean compile and setup time. I mean time and effort for someone completely unfamiliar with the WiX source and whatever may be involved in rolling a custom bootstrapper (like myself and most other people on here who ask how to do what doesn't seem like a complex request). Sure, for you

Re: [WiX-users] Adding installed file location into registry - VS2010 developed Word plugin

2013-09-18 Thread Blair Murri
The MSP is for Office/Word and not your add-in, correct? If so, you will need to bootstrap the MSP from outside of your MSI (there aren't many good ways to do so from within your MSI). Most on this list would likely suggest using Burn (now part of WiX). Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:10:46 +0200

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
It's not trivial to create a custom BA. It takes time and effort. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Alain Forget afor...@cmu.edu wrote: I don't mean compile and setup time. I mean time and effort for someone completely unfamiliar with the WiX source and whatever may be involved in rolling a

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
Alain, One thing you have to remember, this is a FREE product. It is not a full time job for the main developers, they do this on their spare time and other developers add stuff on their spare time as well. Burn/Boostrapper was added in 3.6 (or was it 3.5) as add on tool for WIX and is an

Re: [WiX-users] Error 0x80070003: Failed to get size of pseudo bundle

2013-09-18 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2013/9/18 Vadivel Natarajan vadiv...@syncfusion.com: We need to fix this error immediately. This is very urgent. Can someone please help? http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#urgent -- Nicolás --

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
As far as I know, suppressing the Burn UI and using only the MSI UI is not how Burn is *supposed* to be used. Why would the WiX developers spend time and effort to make it easier to use in that way? -- Nicolás 2013/9/18 Alain Forget afor...@cmu.edu: Which I think reinforces my point. It's not

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
I understand it's FREE, but I've gotten the sense that at least some WiX developers care to make WiX not only great for themselves, but great for everyone, and encourage its use. If so, then the fewer barriers there are to accomplish WiX users' goals, the more people will use it, and

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
I disagree. What it says that you think one or more people need to volunteer to add even *more* functionality to what has been provided by volunteers up to this point. Let me suggest that telling the people that have spent significant amount of effort getting the WiX toolset to this point that

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Wesley Manning
I thinks it's learning to use the API of C++ burn that’s the hurdle. Especially since an installer is fairly important to get right. I've been putting off creating a custom BA because of lack of docs.Eventually I will and at that time I can provide a tutorial if it's still useful. Even

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Minor changes = adding a text field, a check box, a window in the wizard steps, something like that. I never figured out how to do that without needing a custom BA, at which point, I gave up (thankfully, because apparently it's very time and effort intensive!). -Original Message- From:

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Wesley Manning
What do you mean by minor changes? I do that using the stdba by changing the templates. But my minor changes are adding graphics, adding installer version, changing text size, etc. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 5:02 PM To:

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Wow. My sincere apologies, Rob. I was just adding food for thought. I think the easier WiX can be for everyone to accomplish their goals, the more people will use it, and contribute to it, making it even better. I wasn't at all trying to say that WiX is bunk because it doesn't do this one

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
Note: I don't know that all the developers on the WiX toolset believe that Burn based installs should display single unified UI by suppressing internal MSI UI, but I do. However, Burn certainly supports showing internal MSI UI. In fact, in v3.8 FireGiant found and fixed a bug related to showing

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Which I think reinforces my point. It's not clear to me why it needs to take lots of time and effort just to suppress a UI, or make minor changes to an existing UI. -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 15:58 To:

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
Alain, You can't expect someone to hold your hand! You have to dive in, figure out the code, and try to add some stuff to it, trial and error, and by doing this you are gaining knowledge on how the code works... As Wesley stated you can change minor things by the theme wxl/xml files But what

Re: [WiX-users] ** SPAM ** [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
Awesome Rob, I logged that Internal MSI UI and the progress not moving bug, glad its fixed I will look forward to 3.8 :) -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: September-18-13 4:41 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject:

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Wesley Manning
You can do a text field/check box using Niel's wixstba if using 3.7, it's in 3.8 I believe. A new window needs a custom BA. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 5:35 PM To: Wesley Manning; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
I was able to add checkboxes/radiobuttons on Welcome Page, then fool WixExtendedBA to think the Options button was Next and the options page to be the rich text EULA page, so I have 2 pages now... select the product to install, click next agree to the EULA and click Install, most of that was

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
You have to dive in, figure out the code, and try to add some stuff to it, trial and error, and by doing this you are gaining knowledge on how the code works... Sorry, but I don't believe in that. Part of my background is in usability, so my view is that, if to accomplish anything at all,

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Wow, what black magic is this? :-P Somehow I completely failed to do something similar in the theme files a few weeks ago. If I need to tackle it again, I hope you won't mind if I ask for advice. -Original Message- From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
Thanks, Steve! -Original Message- From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 17:15 To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less? I am

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Mensching
You can write BA's in managed code too. The WixBA is managed (available in the WiX tree) as is the Visual Studio BA (obviously, not available). On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: I thinks it's learning to use the API of C++ burn that’s the hurdle.

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Steven Ogilvie
I am using Neil's WixExtendedBA which is not part of Wix 3.7 (it is in Wix 3.8) You can get it from: https://wixextba.codeplex.com/ for this you need to customize your theme files xml/wxl i.e. HyperLinkTheme.xml Page Name=Install Text X=11 Y=80 Width=-11 Height=30 FontId=2

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Edwin Castro
On 9/18/13 1:57 PM, Alain Forget wrote: Gaining knowledge on how code works is fine and has value, but at the end of the day, people have primary tasks they're trying to get done and can't always commit the time or effort into tangential secondary tasks. I think it is clear that the WiX

Re: [WiX-users] Execution order issue

2013-09-18 Thread Kai Peters
My mistake for not specifying what else I had tried: When i switched to 'deferred' LIGHT complained: error LGHT0204 : ICE77: CA_CopyMasterIni is a in-script custom action. It must be sequenced in between the InstallInitialize action and the InstallFinalize action in the InstallExecuteSequence