Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-13 Thread Alain Forget
: Blair Murri [mailto:os...@live.com] Sent: July 3, 2013 20:09 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Have you tried an exe that launches the updater and then immediately exits (without waiting for the updater to exit)? I'm curious if that would

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-04 Thread Phill Hogland
As Rob indicated the dependency loop would not exist by default. It depends on how the designer implemented the MyClient service. A Windows Service should have a control handler thread that processes events from the Service Control Manager and separate worker thread(s) that implement the

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-04 Thread Alain Forget
be :-P). So any more ideas are definitely very appreciated. Alain -Original Message- From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] Sent: July 4, 2013 11:27 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue As Rob indicated the dependency loop

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-03 Thread Blair Murri
Have you tried an exe that launches the updater and then immediately exits (without waiting for the updater to exit)? I'm curious if that would change any of this dynamic. From: afor...@cmu.edu To: os...@live.com Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Date: Wed, 3 Jul

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-02 Thread Alain Forget
[mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: July 1, 2013 18:20 To: 'Rob Mensching'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Burn is very self-contained and only uses files it carries with it, although a custom BA can do anything. I'm

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-01 Thread Alain Forget
/MsiPackage /Chain /Bundle /Wix -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: July 1, 2013 01:28 To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue I don't know what in Burn

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Maybe this blog would be helpful: http://code.dblock.org/msi-property-patterns-upgrading-firstinstall-and-maintenance -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/Upgrade

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-05 Thread Alain Forget
for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Use orca and have a look at your Upgrade table. Do you have OLDERVERSION_BEINGUPGRADED / NEWERVERSION_INSTALLED defined there? Are the other field values right? (Version Min/Max, Upgrade Code, Attributes

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm
...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue From http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373667(v=vs.8 5).aspx 351 = ERROR_FAIL_SHUTDOWN Some applications could not be shut down. The AppStatus

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Also: Two entries in Add/Remove means the upgrade failed to upgrade. You have side by side (or on top of each other) products running, so since the upgrade did not in fact happen I'd say that then all bets are off regarding proper behavior

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: June 4, 2013 02:09 To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Do you have more than one ServiceContol elements in your MSI? I found

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm
.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Yes, I have 4 ServiceControl elements in the MSI, but up until this issue came up, the MSI had absolutely no problems stopping all the services, removing them, and then installing the new versions, and starting them

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
] Sent: June 4, 2013 11:45 To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue One difference is that burn will only run the execute install sequence as it is running the MSI silently, when you run just

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Phil Wilson
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Also: Two entries in Add/Remove means the upgrade failed to upgrade. You have side by side (or on top of each other) products running, so since the upgrade did not in fact happen I'd say that then all bets are off regarding proper behavior

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm
-Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 17:32 To: Neil Sleightholm; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Yeah, when running the MSIs, they run with the exact

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
the related product. Alain -Original Message- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phil.wil...@mvps.org] Sent: June 4, 2013 12:39 To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Upgrades don't work like that, and neither

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Phil Wilson
-Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:35 AM To: 'Phil Wilson'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue I must not be understanding what you mean. As I mentioned

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Your log may not be verbose. What you're looking for is something like this for a proper upgrade detection: Action start 8:15:57: FindRelatedProducts. Action 8:15:57: FindRelatedProducts. Searching for related applications

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
understanding of the problem? Alain -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: June 4, 2013 13:33 To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue I

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm
XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Yes, I was using msiexec /I originally, before I moved from MSIs to the bundled EXE. But (apparently) just running the installer still works the same, whether it's an MSI or EXE. I found the entry you're

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Hoover, Jacob
Use orca and have a look at your Upgrade table. -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 4:19 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
-Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: June 4, 2013 17:19 To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue ARPSYSTEMCOMPONENT just makes the install not appear in ARP so shouldn't make

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Hoover, Jacob
, June 04, 2013 4:53 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue But (apparently) just running the installer still works the same, whether it's an MSI or EXE. Not sure what you mean by this? So it's possible for me

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Use orca and have a look at your Upgrade table. Do you have OLDERVERSION_BEINGUPGRADED / NEWERVERSION_INSTALLED defined there? Are the other field values right? (Version Min/Max, Upgrade Code, Attributes) -Original Message

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Sleightholm
XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Use orca and have a look at your Upgrade table. Do you have OLDERVERSION_BEINGUPGRADED / NEWERVERSION_INSTALLED defined there? Are the other field values right? (Version Min/Max, Upgrade Code, Attributes) -Original Message

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Phil Wilson
[mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 3:22 PM To: 'Hoover, Jacob'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Use orca and have a look at your Upgrade table. Looks fine to me. Here's the one for version 1.0.2

[WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-03 Thread Alain Forget
We've encountered a curious problem when our bundle auto upgrades. When our client software dials home and detects that it is outdated, it downloads the newest version (1.0.1), and runs it with the following command: cmd /c start MyUpToDateBundle.exe -quiet -norestart -log MyUpToDateBundle.log

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-03 Thread Hoover, Jacob
-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue We've encountered a curious problem when our bundle auto upgrades. When our client software dials home and detects that it is outdated, it downloads the newest version (1.0.1), and runs it with the following command: cmd /c start MyUpToDateBundle.exe -quiet

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-03 Thread Alain Forget
for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue From http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373667(v=vs.85).aspx 351 = ERROR_FAIL_SHUTDOWN Some applications could not be shut down. The AppStatus of the RM_PROCESS_INFO structures

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-03 Thread Phil Wilson
...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue From http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373667(v=vs.85). aspx 351 = ERROR_FAIL_SHUTDOWN Some applications could not be shut down. The AppStatus