Re: [WSG] website help, fixing problem with ie5

Try redoing the layout aspects of the CSS using a shell from http://www.inknoise.com/experimental/layoutomatic.php ... For educational purposes I would keep an old copy of your stylesheet settings to check for differences. The only markup error I noticed was in your declaration. You should de

[WSG] form input

Title: form input Is there some way that you can only target input elements with type SUBMIT? Example;
form input
{
    background-color: #FFCFCE;
   

Re: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. Hi Taco, The answer as ever is yes and no. Yes in mozilla et al and no in IE. The "attribute" selector is used as follows: input[type="submit"]{ your css attributes here} The only way to do it reliable is the way you are prop

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Or apply a class to it. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Hi Mark, The answer as ever is yes and no. Yes in mozilla et al and no in IE. As always ofcourse. The only way to do it reliable is the way you are proposing - unless you can refer to it another way - i.e. does it sit

Re: [WSG] new member says hello

Hi again, Peter, welcome to the list. Had a look at your site the other day. Beautiful stuff in the portfolio section! Russ > > Hi folks, > > Peter Gifford here, new member just introducing myself. Hopefully I > can be of some service on the list and not just poke about in your > experienced br

Re: [WSG] new member says hello

Hi folks, Peter Gifford here, new member just introducing myself. Hopefully I can be of some service on the list and not just poke about in your experienced brains whenever I'm stumped. I've been designing as 'Universal Head' for almost ten years, and have done everything from print to website

Re: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

..using a descendant selector... #mydiv input { blah : blah; } #anotherdiv input { blah : blah; } That said, I've had some issues with getting markup to validate with divs in forms. Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandards

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Yes, but that would the same as assigning a class to the submit button. Anyway, thanks for the input - answer: it can't be done yet;-)) -Original Message- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] form

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Steve, I realize what your saying, and thats exactly what I meant by "I realize I could do it the following way, but thats not what I am after." Which was refering to using a class. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Stephen Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 20

Re: [WSG] form input

As far as I know you can't really target tags by their elements. Since the submit button is just a type="submit" input tag, the normal input rules will apply to it. I'd say go with your second style and remember that some of the properties will cascade down.. you may have to redefine certain pr

[WSG] px em pt ???

Title: px em pt ??? (aayyy, my third post today?) I'd like to see what all of yours opinion is on what to use for sizes, I have always been a believer to stick to pixels, because that is the only size that to me sounds as something that is not platform/OS bound. Anyway, I also found the fo

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Taco, There's more than one way to reference a cat. I think what Mark means is that if there was a around the submit button you could use that as a more specific selector. IMHO, probably just easier to use a class (as previously mentioned...) Steve Dixon. ***

Re: [WSG] px em pt ???

http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/relative/ > (aayyy, my third post today?) > > I'd like to see what all of yours opinion is on what to use for sizes, I have > always been a believer to stick to pixels, because that is the only size that > to me sounds as something that is not platform/O

Re: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Not really, there is no class on the submit, it's a class on the surrounding block.. a label in this example. Better to use a class as their may be more than one submit/reset on the page. .submitbuttons { background-color : red; } .resetbuttons { background-color : blue; } Cheers James

Re: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

rereading that it may not be clear, if you want to style the button in the label you could do something like this... label.submitbuttons input { rule : value; } wonder if just .submitbuttons input would work? James Ellis wrote: Not really, there is no class on the submit, it's a class on th

[WSG] Hours of thrilling reading from the W3C

n you are stuck. - http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20031209/ The second doc is a bit heavier going, its the Working Draft for the Architecture of the World Wide Web. Its a big title but it lives up to its name. Basically this document is there to define how all the bits work together

[WSG] Re: px em pt ???

That article gives the worst advice I've seen. Basically, they're saying that if someone wants to resize the text on your web page, you shouldn't allow them to because it will break your site, making it illegible. If a user wants to resize the text on your site, it is because it is illegible to

[WSG] OT: Opening documents in _blank window

Just a question about how other developers handle opening documents e.g. PDF, DOC, in a new window. At the moment I am using _blank targets. Scenario 1: User is using IE with Word configured to open inside the IE window. When the user clicks on a link to the Word doc a new IE window opens and

RE: [WSG] px em pt ???

Hey Taco The general idea that we stick to in here is that % or ems are best. This is to work around a "bug" in IE/WIN that prevents px based fonts being resized easily. It is still possible to resize px fonts in IE but you have to dig around in the menu rather than using ctrl+scrolly mouse. Pe

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

I definitely agree that relative sized fonts provide a more accessible design but I wonder about how sight-impaired users themselves use the web and their PC's in general? For instance, my grandfather has coke-bottle-thickness glasses and as such uses a 19" monitor in 800x600 resolution, which

RE: [WSG] px em pt ???

Correct me if I am wrong, but if your working with % percentage, does that mean that in some browsers the font size can be bigger or smaller than intended? Thats what I understoud from the article that Russ send me the link of. -Original Message- From: Mark Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

thats a good one... It makes sense what you are saying, to me anyway. -Original Message- From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? I definitely agree that relative sized fonts pro

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

I get your point Miles - but why should your grandfather NOT be able to walk into an internet cafe and use the 15" monitor at 1024x768 with IE 5 on it? Accessibility means removing as many obstacles as possible. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Yes, I just thought of it whilst looking around at all the various articles about relative font sizes since I am in the midst of redeveloping a sites' stylesheet to use them. I have previously used pixel sizes in a few sites without realising the impact. However relative font sizes seem to ha

RE: [WSG] px em pt ???

Hey Taco In some browsers, yes. For example on a hand held the font size will probably be quite a bit smaller than on a normal desktop. But in terms of the common desktop browsers its ok, there are problems with how %'s cascade in some cases but you can usually fix this up with a bit of tweaking

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

touché Mark ;) It is a problem that Windows buries its accessibility options so deep. I think it would be better that he could walk into a net cafe and be able to easily changes the OS font-size. However since this isn't the case, the ability to change it in the browser IS the next best thin

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Sorry for the length of this... 1. All government sites are supposed to follow WAI guideline - which recommend the use of relative font sizes. 2. The aim is to give users the option. Saying that users can change their screen resolution is throwing the responsibility back onto them - it is our job

Re: [WSG] OT: Opening documents in _blank window

Hi All, I am a new member and this is my first post. Miles I came across your problem a while back while upgrading my work site, trying everything I was about to give up when Sitepoint.com published an article from Kevin Yank that explained exactly how to open documents in a new window. And it's

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Makes sense too.. I guess in the end it all becomes a case of - is the client willing to pay for your extra time required to apply all these hacks. Having worked for several government bodies I am afraid to say I have NEVER worked with %, simply because it looked like a paint to work with. And

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Hi Taco, > I guess in the end it all becomes a case of - is the client > willing to pay for your extra time required to apply all these hacks. First thing to note is that it is soo much quicker to develop a site this way once you get the basics right. Once you have the basics, you start the n

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Taco, If you code well, relative font sizes do not require a great deal to apply across a site. You are simply making decisions on font-sizes as you develop each section of the page - exactly as you would for pixels. There is really very little excuse not to use one of the methods below. Method 1

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Peter, I know its a bit of a cop-out and less of a 'learning experience', but I'd love to get my hands on a generic CSS template that I can use as a starting point... Has anyone been nice enough to make one available anywhere? -Original Message- From: Peter Firminger [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

Any links to information about descendant selectors and backwards compatibility? In particular Netscape 4... -Original Message- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:41 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Taco, If

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

http://westciv.com/style_master/academy/browser_support/selectors.html Try this - keep in mind you can hide content from NN4 if needed using @import Russ > > Any links to information about descendant selectors and backwards > compatibility? In particular Netscape 4... > > -Original Messag