[WSG] Links for reading...

2004-02-26 Thread russ weakley
Side-stepping IE - a must-read recap of all IE's woes! http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/25/sidestepping/index.php Let¹s take a look at some of Internet Explorer for Windows¹ biggest CSS deficiencies, and how you can use MOSe techniques or just plain old hacks to get around these problems.

Re: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

2004-02-26 Thread James Ellis
Different browsers react differently - Opera doesn't show the padlock icon in this case (the page isn't secure as Mark pointed out), Moz will show a broken padlock icon and IE will go on read alert. This occurs with anything bought in over http when the main page is requested over https (e.g im

RE: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Chris Blown
The "menus" div is overlapping "sidemenu" causing the top entry in the menu to miss its hover selector ( at least in FireFox here ) Regards Chris Blown On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 15:18, Chris Blown wrote: > Good stuff.. Mike. > > Not sure if its just me, but I noticed that the > > Acoustic Emissio

RE: [WSG] classguide

2004-02-26 Thread David McDonald
Peter, Yes, I agree, the Jetstar classnames are incomprehensible. I'm currently writing the styleguide for BHP Billiton's site templates, and I am including in it a section on div id's and classes, and what they represent. Information in this section includes how the different divs work in th

Re: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Andy Clarke
Lucian My advice would be that if your images are purely decorative, then no 'accessible alternative' content is required. There might be an argument for saying that "Picture of Ruby Kavanagh, Principal..." is content rather than decoration, but it is a judgement call, not a fixed rule. We hav

[WSG] One step closer...

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Stanton
...to a workable alternative to CSS1. http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Michael Kear
Whooh! I just launched my first near-compliant site. It's the first of 5 I'm working on at the moment, all built from scratch to XHTML1.0 Strict. This one has a couple of xhtml validation errors that I'm not sure whether to bother with or not - it's a question of how much can I afford to tink

[WSG] classguide

2004-02-26 Thread Peter Ottery
hiya,   I noticed that the much publicized new qantas airline - http://www.jetstar.com/ - launched their site with a css layout. I havent had a real look at the code, but my question is more about class and id names. when you have a pretty complicated site and you end up using some sort of n

[WSG] Safari 1.2 - border-collapse and title

2004-02-26 Thread James Ellis
Hi all Just had a squiz at Safari 1.2 and whatever version/improvement of khtml it uses now looks to support the collapsing border model (border-collapse). Also title attributes are rendered as contextual tooltips with text in the status bar. Nice to see a browser maker reacting to requests/ r

Re: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Neerav
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1041 will solve the target=_blank error setting img { border: 0; } in your CSS will fix the next, and that makes it validate 100% :-) Neerav www.bhatt.id.au Michael Kear wrote: Whooh! I just launched my first near-compliant site. It's the first of 5 I'm wor

RE: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Chris Blown
Good stuff.. Mike. Not sure if its just me, but I noticed that the Acoustic Emission Instrumentation link only hovers when my mouse is over "Instrumentation" Linux FireFox 0.8 ( gtk2 / xft ) Cheers Chris Blown On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 13:45, Michael Kear wrote: > Whooh! I just launched

RE: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Hill, Tim
cool, to get rid of that flash of unstyled content in IE, visit this page. http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel:+612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Lucian Teo
I recently worked on a site whose owners wanted both the prototypes I presented to them. I decided to implement a javascript styleswitcher from ALA. I decided on a colour version and a black and white version of the site. This would also mean that all the graphics in the site would have to s

Re: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Ben Smith
Is it me or does that article simply point out how to generate non-standards-compliant code with javascript in order to fool the validator? Though it's not always possible, I prefer adhere to the spirit of the standard - allowing the user to control where pages open. B Neerav wrote: http://

[WSG] See through the eyes of a Mac browser

2004-02-26 Thread Neerav
http://www.danvine.com/icapture/ "What is iCapture? · This is what I hope will become a free, sponsor-driven, resource for web designers deprived their own Mac. Allowing realtime viewing of their site in a handful of Mac browsers. But why? · There are two reasons why you wouldn't need this site

RE: [WSG] Styleswitching

2004-02-26 Thread Hill, Tim
On the third page kevin yank talks about it a bit more [quote from article] "...if the target attribute of the tag is being phased out, does it really make a difference whether we're setting it with JavaScript instead of HTML? Sure, the page will validate against the HTML 4.0 Strict and XHTML 1.

[WSG] MAC IE FIX - splash page

2004-02-26 Thread JW
Sorry pressed sent email button too fast and didn't include the CSS for the splash page. The page got cut in MAC. Sigh.   /* GENERAL~~ */body { font-family   : Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif

[WSG] MAC IE FIX?

2004-02-26 Thread JW
Hi all..here to seek for help again.   I have managed to get a friend to help me test my site on his MAC and what I see is a shock...(should have expected that).   Here is some screenshots on what it looks like in MAC IE http://www.sodesires.com/pdf/sod_macie.pdf   These are my layout for the

Re: [WSG] re: just joined WSG

2004-02-26 Thread russ weakley
Hi Neerav, Welcome to the group. How late? Depends on what part of the meeting. The official end is around 9pm, but some members have been known to continue the "meeting" in the pub afterwards till the early hours. Russ > Hope to meet Sydney members at the next meeting, how late do they > usua

[WSG] re: just joined WSG

2004-02-26 Thread Neerav
Hi all Just discovered the WSG via meetup.com, wish i'd known about it earlier. I always design web sites to W3C standards (as appropriate). Currently using XHTML 1.0 Transitional & CSS 1/2 , but for previous projects with different requirements eg: a Government Intranet where NS4 was the defa

Re: [WSG] DTDS and which to use?

2004-02-26 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
I gave up on trying to use Dreamweaver after my recent upgrade on OS. My copy of MX is having issues (FTP related), and 04 doesn't have enough changes to justify the cost in an upgrade for me. Tried GoLive CS out but wasn't really impressed...just way too much junk for such a simple task. I al

RE: [WSG] Form not formatting correctly in Opera7.1

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Harwood
Its due to   #form label,input, select,textarea  {    display : block; }   If you give it display:inline then it will stay within you ’s   That’s a nice little bug Operas got there! As a rule I always give form elements display:inline   Kind regards, Mark Harwood   ---

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Stanton
Think about it - if I made a page that was https & then had an iframe that was http from another server The user thinks they are getting https but in fact they are not. IE does go over the top though - anything linked will do it (images, etc..). Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanto

Re: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

2004-02-26 Thread James Cowperthwaite
Thanks Mark - yep it was indeed the flash object tag! Changed to https for the codebase and pluginspage and now is all good. Interesting IE feature? Thanks again! James Mark Stanton wrote: The secure & insecure message means that you have an https page that is referencing some material (an im

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Stanton
The secure & insecure message means that you have an https page that is referencing some material (an image, style sheet or whatever) over normal http. To test that this is the problem visit the page over http instead of https - no message. I had a quick look over the page and couldn't see anyth