Re: [WSG] Downloading Fonts

2008-12-08 Thread Joe Ortenzi
macs can run windows fonts as well. There may be conflicts though if you run the same font from both os's simultaneously though. but loading fonts can be a resource burden as they all load into RAM at startup. I recommend the excellent and free Linotype http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX F

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-02 Thread Joe Ortenzi
standards compliance should not be confused with WCAG conformance. HTML is a standard WCAG is a guidance that people use as if it were a "standard", which could easily be a standard but is effectively not one. However, complying with WCAG confers added benefits which standards compliance cr

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Joe Ortenzi
buying a mailing list that requires root access. Joe On 12/11/2008, at 11:41 AM, Graphics & Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called exp

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] li hover bg "preloader"

2008-11-10 Thread Joe Ortenzi
there is no such thing as 'rollover' in JavaScript. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Ortenzi Sent: 08 November 2008 03:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] li hover bg "preloader"

Re: [WSG] I am away on leave [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
*SIGH* On 08/11/2008, at 7:54 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I am away on leave returning on Monday, 10 November 2008, if you have a request for Customs web admin please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Nathan Nathan Franklin Web Admin | IT Applications | Australi

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] li hover bg "preloader"

2008-11-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
you mean on hover (i.e.: a:hover) not on rollover (that's javaScript), don't you? Pedantic Joe On 07/11/2008, at 12:49 PM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: ah yes i had forgotten about that, thanks. Henrik Madsen wrote: I have done this previously: Have 1 background image and change it

Re: [WSG] Who are the "Away on leave" Notices from? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-05 Thread Joe Ortenzi
wouldn't have been able to participate in this discussion. I believe in stopping the waste at source (conservation) over trying to fix it further down the line (recycling) as it is less work and a lighter load that way. joe On 06/11/2008, at 8:55 AM, Chris Vickery wrote: If you

Re: [WSG] Who are the "Away on leave" Notices from?

2008-11-05 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Of course OOOR notices are important but it is a trivial matter to set a list of addresses or domains this notice does not affect OR to send the OOOR to each email address only once in a week, so the sender knows you're out but does not have to receive your notice everyday. Joe On

Re: [WSG] Who are the "Away on leave" Notices from?

2008-11-05 Thread Joe Ortenzi
this would be a useful and important addition to the mailing guidelines I would have to say, yes. Joe On 06/11/2008, at 8:47 AM, Brett Patterson wrote: Oh. I have always just set mine up to not send out for specific e- mail addresses. Sorry, did not mean to exasperate the issue. I did not

Re: [WSG] Who are the "Away on leave" Notices from?

2008-11-05 Thread Joe Ortenzi
agree it is disconcerting. Joe On 06/11/2008, at 8:20 AM, David Fuller :: magickweb wrote: Brett While I agree they can be annoying, they are quite a useful thing for normal circumstances. They are generally set up by the person who owns the email address (sometimes by their network

Re: [WSG] URL length best practices [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-05 Thread Joe Ortenzi
yes, good point. I was making a subtle stab at the .htm versus .html discussion in here recently. but given my 'druthers, yes, I'd personally drop all file extensions in URLs completely if I could. Joe On 05/11/2008, at 4:04 PM, Hassan Schroeder wrote: Joe Ortenzi wrote: th

Re: [WSG] URL length best practices [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
really for the final page, which should not bury a full product list so deeply and should be titled / product_list.html anyway. BAD IA IMHO Joe OK, in marketing terms you can easily create your own TinyURL by redirecting vimportant traffic through a rewrite. On 05/11/2008, at 12:40 PM

Re: [WSG] URL length best practices

2008-11-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
I said no direct reason, but you point is a good reason to consider short URLs but this is not always possible, but yes, typablity is a good thing too. On 05/11/2008, at 11:27 AM, silky wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Joe Ortenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: other than making

Re: [WSG] URL length best practices

2008-11-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
other than making sense and having a strong connection with the page the content is on, there is no direct reason, other than being a bit sensible about it, I wouldn't advise testing out the 2048 characters. On 05/11/2008, at 9:32 AM, James Ellis wrote: RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1) doesn't set a ma

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
chnology they request but to dig deeper into their business goals and resources and aims for the site, step back and analyse their needs, then return with a best fit for their time, aims, strategy and budget. Joe On 04/11/2008, at 1:02 AM, Susan Grossman wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2008

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
want Contribute and, upon discovering those needs, either continue with Contribute or offer a solution that meets their needs better, should that be the case, but it is the needs of the project that need to be discovered first, I'd have thought. Joe On 03/11/2008, at 12:21 AM, Tod

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Bless you Dave, much more patience than I had, I can tell you. These are all spot on. Joe On 03/11/2008, at 9:35 AM, Dave Lane wrote: Hello Mark, Mark Harris wrote: Dave, the business decision is not that of the web designer. While web design may be his business, it's not the busine

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
clutch", "shift gears at a lower rev to save petrol", "let the engine warm for a few moments before giving it a load", are all things you pay your mechanic good money for so your car runs better for longer, the expert advice he is good for. Mark, you misread both my

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-02 Thread Joe Ortenzi
t, and one proposing Contribute already has this in mind. It is up to we professionals to show them an option that goes towards their own content supply, but in a more integrated fashion than Contribute can manage. Joe On 02/11/2008, at 4:43 PM, Mark Harris wrote: Joe Ortenzi wrote: Contribute

Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-01 Thread Joe Ortenzi
and their money is better served by getting a simple CMS deployed that meets with their scope and strategy and will be easier to manage for everyone, client included. joe On 02/11/2008, at 12:53 AM, James Farrell wrote: Hi Guys, A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content mana

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Joe Chiang
lly-sticky-sidebar http://www.nowcss.com/javascript/emulating-position-fixed-in-ie-6-below Any thoughts? Thanks, Joe On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May I suggest that we "fix" an "Up" link at the bottom and a series

[WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-28 Thread Joe Chiang
ge into smaller pages is the simplest way out, but for our application, the page has to contain all the information on the same page. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Joe *** List Guidelines: http://webstandard

[WSG] Web Standards Meetup London July Meeting

2008-07-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
beer (or wine or juice) This will be my penultimate event in London before I join the Sydney crew in September so it would be great to get as many of you as possible around. Thanks. Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.typingthevoid.com www.joi

Re: [WSG] html vs. html <- neither.

2008-07-02 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-19 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Ultimately, if the server is configured right, it shouldn't matter, but standardistas are sticklers for detail./ feel able to reveal the vendor name? Curious Joe On Jun 19 2008, at 18:08, Rob Enslin wrote: Many thanks for all the input. Now for the fun part... go back to the CMS v

Re: [WSG] MA in web development

2008-06-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
rent, but remain essentially unchanged for the last decade at least. So, to reiterate, any MA course should provide the tools to "fish" rather than the fish itself and should not allow itself to be providing significant am amounts of training in concepts that will easily age. Joe

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish and IE 5 with no Javascript

2008-06-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
popouts. If your architecture is clear and obvious, and you have plenty of clear pointers to the content sections, the popout subnav becomes less necessary. On Jun 6 2008, at 16:18, Darren West wrote: Joe said: Therefore if javascript is off, any descended subnav should display in it&#

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish and IE 5 with no Javascript

2008-06-06 Thread Joe Ortenzi
o no need to go to far into it. joe On Jun 6 2008, at 15:47, Rachel Radford wrote: It sounds like a lot of work for something that you are purely guessing? As your audience is already part of the community that you're doing the website for, it should be easy to find out a typ

Re: [WSG] AJAX short courses london

2008-06-01 Thread Joe Ortenzi
for things they need to know more about, and less likely to get stuck in a conceptual rut. Joe On May 30 2008, at 22:39, James Jeffery wrote: Only problem with the Lynda.com DVDs is sometimes they can be outdated. Although, this one is £50 and looks good. I might actually buy this, i

Re: [WSG] AJAX short courses london

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-24 Thread Joe Ortenzi
ntext. Joe On May 16 2008, at 16:32, Ian Chamberlain wrote: Fingers crossed this is not too far off topic; being a newby to PHP; any clues where I can find how-to's, snippets, libraries or even application suites built from PHP that are built to a good minimum standard please. I a

[WSG] London Web standards meetup group

2008-05-08 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Once again the Web Standards Meetup London group is gathering at Lloyds bar in Clerkenwell on Monday May 12th at 7pm. Full details at: http://webstandards.meetup.com/130/calendar/7700441/ Please RSVP if you can make it, thanks! Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.typingthevoid.com www.joiz.com

[WSG] Multiple devices, same client

2008-04-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
e bar... (Anyone notice the irony of having a meting about digital publishing in a former print works? ;-) ) but otherwise at one of the tables to the right of the bar, in one of the nooks. I'll be the baldy with the macBook and a picture of a wasp!. Thanks for your attention. Joe Orte

Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of xhtml

2008-03-28 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest (Out of office until Tuesday 1 April)

2008-03-28 Thread Joe Ortenzi
.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe

Re: [WSG] why do some divs shrink wrap and others don't [OT?]

2008-03-27 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Please clarify dwain. have you got two examples, one shrink-wrapping (??) the other not? Do you mean one div will only be as large as the content within it and the other will retain a fixed size regardless of content? Joe On Mar 27 2008, at 05:07, dwain wrote: after my experience tonight

[WSG] London Web Standards meetup for March

2008-03-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
http://webstandards.meetup.com/130/ RSVP on the meetup page if you're interested. Thanks. Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubsc

Re: [WSG] Experience with Adobe Contribute

2008-03-01 Thread Joe Ortenzi
talled and templated, can provide compliant code. You could even find a way to create something bespoke (my personal preference) using a framework or some good coders. Joe On Mar 1 2008, at 22:08, Elizabeth Spiegel wrote: Hi all I'm working to replace a horribly non-compliant

Re: [WSG] Linux Page Test Please

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Ortenzi
and reply off-list if you encounter a problem? http://allturf.sitesbyjoe.com/ Thanks! -- Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer / Developer ------ Sites by Joe, LLC "Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design" Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://

Re: [WSG] data generator

2008-02-23 Thread Joe Ortenzi
point taken Russ. Do you feel this thread (implementation of JS in datagenerator site) is on topic? Joe On Feb 23 2008, at 13:55, russ - maxdesign wrote: Gary was having a bad day. He's now left the list. Don’t take his comments personally, anyone! Let’s all calm down and focus o

Re: [WSG] data generator

2008-02-23 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Looks to me like Gary was talking to all of us, or do I understand _list_ differently to others? Joe On Feb 23 2008, at 06:52, dwain wrote: my misunderstanding. dwain On 2/23/08, Gary Menzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wasn't talking to you dwain. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:3

Re: [WSG] data generator

2008-02-23 Thread Joe Ortenzi
standards compliance, _some_ of the time, or in all that we do? Joe On Feb 23 2008, at 06:04, Gary Menzel wrote: I wasn't talking to you dwain. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:39 PM, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: target had something that just works and look what happened to t

Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Joe Ortenzi
you mean "Dont make ME think", right? ;-) you made me think about it... ;-) On Feb 19 2008, at 07:29, Thomas Thomassen wrote: "Don't make the think -- A Common Sence Approach to Web Usability" by Steve Krug Joe Ortenzi [EMAI

Re: [WSG] books

2008-02-19 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-17 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Dwain, Matt Sorry forgot to mention I also getfilesize in php for reasons Dwain mentioned and I have created simple functions like the one he mentions, with a pool of file icons to display with. Sorry for not mentioning these. Joe On Feb 17 2008, at 00:27, Matt Fellows wrote: As Joe

Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

2008-02-16 Thread Joe Ortenzi
ry of text content you want to allow the recipient to edit, or easily copy into another text editing application. In this instance I make sure the word doc is as simple as possible, and is minimally formatted, preferably as an rtf. Joe On Feb 15 2008, at 13:10, kevin.erickson wrote: Hi, Can

[WSG] keep to the standards of the standards list

2008-02-16 Thread Joe Ortenzi
n the desire to hold to standards, conflicts arise in the creation of code, so we DO have to occasionally debug in order to solve, don't we? Joe On Feb 15 2008, at 11:52, Matt Fellows wrote: With no offense intended to the list moderators, I feel the usefulness of this maili

Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-14 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
This is a much better and interesting description of web 2.0. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE if less technical... Joe On Feb 12 2008, at 13:14, russ - maxdesign wrote: Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web 2.0: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Joe Ortenzi
sible. There's nothing stopping us from: id ="form element_1" id ="form element_2" id ="form element_3" if we need to order elements. Or have I missed something? Joe On Feb 8 2008, at 07:30, Chris Knowles wrote: Joe Ortenzi wrote: I would have thought so.

Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-02-08 Thread Joe Ortenzi
IE - I have one with 5.5, one with 6, one with 7, another with office 97, all with antispam/spybot software.) Seems like no contest to me... Joe On Feb 8 2008, at 06:20, James Ellis wrote: and remember that Wine is an emulation layer, it may not give the same results as virtualising

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
quality of a label/input group by designating it a block element, and then group several form elements, or even each label input group with fieldsets? BTW: is the equivalent of a force carriage return and thus belongs within paragraphs, i thought! Joe On Feb 7 2008, at 19:55, Алексей Новиков

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
we should use that one within forms, I would have thought. Joe On Feb 7 2008, at 16:05, Thomas Thomassen wrote: Fieldsets and Labels is present in HTML4 as well. Don't see anything new about that. Still need some extra elements to organise them. Such as lists. - Original

Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-06 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Has anyone looked up the HTML 5 pages on form elements? http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/ http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#forms It's all fieldsets and labels... which makes more semantic sense than paragraphs, lists, and dd/dl JOe On Feb 6 2008, at 04:06, Steve Green wrote: There m

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

2008-02-06 Thread Joe Ortenzi
that we could all find useful in our bookmarks list. give it a whirl! http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/ Joe On Feb 6 2008, at 02:10, Michael Horowitz wrote: I've noticed that my site is centered it ie 7.0 but left justified in firefox http://terrorfreeamerica.us/. What are the issue

Re: [WSG] Why code and no web pag

2008-02-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
end tag, like, , and , so you close the tag internally, with a space slash, like so: and the input example above. Hope this helps! BTW: I notice you posted a comment that you got it working in FF but it doesn't work for me here, unless I got the link wrong? Joe On Feb 3 2008, at

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-29 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] A Question of Semantics

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Ortenzi
no probs. just trying to help. On Jan 27 2008, at 01:05, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Yes I do, it's not finished yet. Joe Ortenzi wrote: Christian. Did you know most of your portfolio goes to a 404? On Jan 24 2008, at 16:06, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Hello, I have a small sem

Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Ortenzi
;root" instance of XP and start fresh with a virgin instance... Not bad for less than £150 and a days work setting up and locking it down! Joe On Jan 25 2008, at 06:08, kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an opti

Re: [WSG] A Question of Semantics

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

2008-01-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
You'd be surprised (maybe not!) as to how few people know about tab and new windows and use them for this purpose. I really have to push people in our studio to use these. Joe On Jan 19 2008, at 12:11, George S. Williams wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 04:38, Designer wrote: I use this

Re: [WSG] Re: Where did I come from?

2008-01-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
That's not *fixing* the back button and is a consequence of the AJAX refresh JS instead. It is the JS that needs to be fixed.... joe On Jan 19 2008, at 17:43, Michael MD wrote: Are we agreed that the back button *should* take one to the previous page? yep .. speaking of which... Is

Re: [WSG] Re: Where did I come from?

2008-01-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
this particular standard? I addition, have you researched that people WANT to go back to the site that led them to your web app? sometimes people move on to the next site for a reason and really are done with the first one... Joe On Jan 19 2008, at 07:18, Simon Cockayne wrote: Hi, Are we a

Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

2008-01-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
ainst WS does it not? In the same way you do not create a difficult navigation system hat you then have to explain is a navigation system you should not replicate common functionality with a new, space-hogging function. Joe On Jan 18 2008, at 22:38, David Dorward wrote: On 18 Jan 2008,

Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

2008-01-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers

2008-01-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
the form itself, perhaps with mouseover text so it is accessibility compliant. How do those with poor site look for your button? They shouldn't have to, the button should announce itself for all to understand! Sorry for the rant . but really Joe On Jan 14 2008, at 01:47, John Horner w

Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers

2008-01-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers

2008-01-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
ing his XP shortcuts! But definitely talk o others who made the transition so you feel fully informed. As someone who works in a Mac-XP- server 2004 - Linux - redhat - ubuntu environment, and has to support all of them, I know where I'd put my money! Joe On Jan 13 2008, at 05:51, Peter M

Re: [WSG] standards-compliant designers and shoddy work poor QA

2008-01-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
computers" is just wrong. Just wrong. Stats for many of my sites, that appal to a wide commercial audience has IE at 80% or less. The rest of what you say is sensible and intelligently put, but please read your comms before sending hem as you do need a reality check on occasion. joe O

Re: [WSG] standards-compliant designers and shoddy work poor QA

2008-01-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Thank you for your sanity check steve! Joe On Jan 13 2008, at 05:34, Steve Olive wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:31:45 pm Michael Horowitz wrote: The answer is very simple. 100% of potential users of a website have IE on their computer. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http

Re: [WSG] Mary-Anne Nayler is out of the office. [SEC=No Protective Marking Present]

2007-12-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
I tried sending an email to "Web Site" but got an "address not valid" error! ;-) Is that like sending a letter to "North Pole" ? Joe On Dec 21 2007, at 04:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office starting 21/12/2007 and will not ret

Re: [WSG] Preventing copying of text from web page.

2007-12-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
hops have cameras and security guards to make the fact that we are being observed in their premises as unobtrusive as possible yet still allow some semblance of security and deterrent. We accept this as long as the guards aren't right in our pockets and the cameras are hidden in corn

Re: [WSG] Story Boards

2007-10-10 Thread Joe Ortenzi
, so we could address their concerns directly. Joe On Oct 10 2007, at 04:46, marvin hunkin wrote: Hi. doing a project for my website development course. now, part of the requirements says that i need to create a story board to represent what content is to be displayed on each page. Now sighted

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Joe Ortenzi
it, I'm going to sue. Idiocy. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
over here. You don't even have alt tags on your images. Hypocritical aren't ya? Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubsc

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
it, I'm going to sue. Idiocy. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
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Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joe Ortenzi
ist Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******* Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PRO

Re: [WSG] Problems validating with TIDY

2007-09-29 Thread Joe Ortenzi
s.com/2007/01/30/aspnets-attempt-at-valid- xhtml/ ASP and .NET has too many instances of bad code generation and no-one is taking MS to task for this. Joe On Sep 28 2007, at 19:53, Tim Offenstein wrote: I have a page I want to validate. W3C says it's valid XHTML Transitional but Tidy c

Re: [WSG] Safari problem

2007-09-27 Thread Joe Ortenzi
online for us to investigate as it may be something else in the surrounding page not just this element in it? Joe On Sep 27 2007, at 18:43, Bas V wrote: I need to scroll a lot of photo thumbnails in a box that shows only 2 rows of images at the time. The right-hand scroll bar from the

[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2006-01-11 Thread Joe
show an abstract – often not the solution and it is a waste of space then.  I would still like to be a member, but again I can’t log in any more.   Thank you,   Joe Sieben Creative Director   Spicy Company Imaging www.spicy.com.au   tel. 07 55 800 900   Suite 213/3 Sir John Overall

Re: [WSG] Firefox :hover font-weight: bold

2005-11-19 Thread Joe Huggins
behaviour. Then again, using FF1.5RC3 P -- Joe Huggins Brilliant Mistake Web Design www.brilliantmistakewebdesign.com 303.903.8352 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] Understanding inheritance (well, trying to)

2005-07-23 Thread Joe Huggins
Hello, This has to do with specificity. The use of the id in #hilite p is a more specific rule than the class in .normal. When you re-write it to #hilite .normal that rule now becomes more specific. An id is more specific than a class. For more on this: http://www.htmldog.com/guides/cssadv

Re: [WSG] Draggable Items

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Leech
Does anyone know the best way to create draggable container elements? Dean Edwards (him of IE7 fame) has put something together that works in IE and FF: http://dean.edwards.name/my/examples/moz-behaviors/ ** The discussion list for http://w

Re: [WSG] Targeting Mac IE5.1 on OSX

2005-02-14 Thread Joe Leech
ight: 36px; padding: 6px 0 0 51px; } Thanks Vaska, but I am using that hack already, But I need to target version 5.1 (OS9 ) separately from version 5.23 (OSX) as they seem to have slightly different behaviors with regard to relative/absolute position

[WSG] Targeting Mac IE5.1 on OSX

2005-02-14 Thread Joe Leech
Hi [WSG], I'm wondering if anybody can help. I'm having real problems positioning an element absolutely on Mac IE 5. It works fine in IE 5.23 on Mac OSX but is out on IE 5.1 on OS9. Does anybody know a way of targeting IE 5.1 on OS9 without effecting IE 5.23 on OSx? Thanks in ad

Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Still choking

2005-01-27 Thread Joe Leech
It's doing the same here on IE 5.1.7. It's ok here on IE 5.23 on OSX joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: ADMIN - thread closed Re: [WSG] Web Standards Developer Job

2005-01-10 Thread Joe Leech
Ian Fenn wrote: Quoting Daniel Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Seems like keeping developers employed in jobs that support web standards would be important to web standards themselves. I agree. Me too. Whose decision was not to allow job vacancies to be posted? *

[WSG] Vacancy: XHTML/CSS Web Developer (UK)

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Leech
6&dateformat=%25o%20%25B%20%25Y Applications, via covering letter and CV (i.e. not just a link to a portfolio site) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] joe leech p.s. I know the website is not standards compliant. We are working on it! ** The discussio

Re: [WSG] Mail with xhtml/css layout

2004-11-03 Thread Joe Leech
Javier wrote: Hi All I need to make a mail with xhtml/css. It´s possible ? Are there tools to make this ? Any idea welcome... Try this tutorial: http://alistapart.com/articles/cssemail/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] linking a

2004-11-02 Thread Joe Leech
t. Scrap the div and apply the styles to the along with display block. So: http://www.getfirefox.com"; title="Get FireFox">Get Firefox a#firefox { width:125px; height:50px; background: url('/weblog/images/takebacktheweb_small.png'); display:block; } a#fir

Re: [WSG] gBrowser from Google

2004-09-28 Thread Joe Winton
http://googlebar.mozdev.org. It works well and seems to have nearly all of the features of the IE version (with the exception of PageRank). - Joe -- Joe Winton, Web/Graphics Coordinator Washington State University Vancouver Office of Campus Advancement [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.546.9603

[WSG] Looking for a good standards compliant wiki

2004-09-17 Thread Joe Leech
Anybody know of one? Preferably where the user has to login to change the page. joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration

RE: [WSG] (Understandable) Myths about the W3C WAI

2004-09-16 Thread Joe Clark
for notetaking and is not a free-standing method of "contributing" to the call. <http://www.w3.org/2004/08/30-wai-wcag-irc> <http://fawny.org/blog/2003/11/#teleconf> -- Joe Clark | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> Expe

[WSG] Joe does Oz

2004-09-16 Thread Joe Clark
he conference? Also, native Sydneysiders, please drop me a line. One has vacation time after the conference, and one has *needs* in that respect. -- Joe Clark | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/> Expect

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