Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd h

Re: [WSG] jump menu method

You must have been using GET rather than POST.Spider's won't submit forms that us POST, but they have every right to follow forms that use GET. http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/04/24/deviant.html http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2005/05/06/This-Stuff-Matters -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pt

[WSG] Google and CSS display:none;

I know this has come up on the list before, but this is the first time I have seen someone from Google formally address the issue. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-mistakes-unwise-comments/ Make sure you read the last two comments. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

www.browsercam.com On 6/20/05, Colm Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to locate that really handy site that allow you to preview > screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations. Does > anyone know the URL. > > Regards, > Colm

Re: [WSG] Gnews - THREAD CLOSED

Guys I really can't see how this dicussion relates to web standards. This is an ad for a product. Sure the output validates and there are W3C logos in the footer, but seriously -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com *

[WSG] Fwd: [cfaussie] ANZ Regional User Group Meeting Next Wednesday 16th Feb 6pm for 7pm Star City

bar opens at 6, so they should be interesting by 7. See you there! Robin Hilliard ANZ Macromedia User Group Coordinator ------- -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Standards?

ion for interest/provocation. No worries mate - enjoy a good civil arguement (especially when I'm right :) -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: [WSG] Standards?

ove User Experience Whats there for a client not to like? I think we probably agree here - the technical detail of hows it done is your problem, not theirs. They just want to know about the end result in practical terms they can understand. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty

Re: [WSG] Search Engines and CSS

ks. I really don't know if this thread is relevant on this list though - if you are seriously interested in discussing google - go to the Google News forum on Web master world. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com **

Re: [WSG] Is sending abusive spam doing standards good or harm?

e list was probably not the best idea. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

o a lesser extent XSL) are all true web standards and are completely relevant on this list, IMHO. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] W3C what are they doing ?

xtent and we go on using the web. its not perfect, but it has got us where we are today and I certainly don't think there is some crisis looming. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://w

Re: [WSG] HOW DO I KNOW THAT MY HTML FILE HEADER IS BEING SENT CORRECTLY?

Hi Charles Download Firefox (if you haven't already) and then install the LiveHTTPHeaders plug in (http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/). Restart Firefox and LiveHTTPHeaders will then be under the tools menu and all your headers will be revealed. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd

Re: [WSG] Standards & Macromedia Contribute

ows what on the Mac in C3. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: [WSG] Standards & Macromedia Contribute

You make it sound like the two are mutually exclusive, which is very misleading. There is nothing about the Dreamweaver template system that doesn't conform with XHTML. Dreamweavers templating works through the use of comments - nothing more. -- Mark Stanton Gr

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

in a variety of ways". The title attribute != tool tip, a tool tip is one common way of representing a title attribute. Back in my box until friday night now... -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] i want to unsubcribe plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

gt; > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > *

Re: [WSG] why oh why

Hi Clayton I think we have assertained that the issue is not present in Firefox 1. This thread has now been closed - please do not respond further. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG][THREAD CLOSED] Customers who won't pay

For the second time THIS THREAD IS CLOSED - please respond off-list if you wish to continue the discussion. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Customers who won't pay

whole thing as a learning experience and never start work on a project until you have a documented signed off specification for what you are building and a contract that commits the client to paying for it. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://

Re: [WSG] Correct use of

;re not sure of something... as long as its not about font sizes :). Also bear in mind that there are rarely absolute right and wrong answers and its easy to get trapped in a cycle of navel gazing and splitting hairs - check http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/04/sq.html for beautiful e

Re: [WSG] Correct use of

Sorry missed one part of your post: > For example, can it be uses to group a number of related links together? I'd suggest that Fieldset in this context is meaningless - its not ArchorSet, its FieldSet - its for form fields. Use a list (ul or ol) for links. -- Mark Stanton Gruden

Re: [WSG] Correct use of

your family. This is basically the same as using tables for visual layout. If you can do the same thing using more appropriate elements and some CSS, you'll be blessed with eternal good karma and will be worshipped as a standards guru by the millions of list members. Enjoy. -- Mark Stan

Re: [WSG] Accessibility : Turing/CAPTCHA test

Are you providing a plain text transcript of the audio file? http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-provide-equivalents (tougue firmly in cheek) -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

to come out on a new page (like excel does), rather than just cutting it off. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cf

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

Sorry again... every column is as skinny as it can get. I've got about 80 columns in the table :( -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

Thanks Neerav I've got rid of everything I can and reduced the fonts as much as I dare and its still >300px too wide for a landscape A4. I've tried setting widths to auto, 100%, px - nothing makes a difference. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://w

[WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

s lost. Does anyone have any ideas no how to fix this issue? -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on p

Re: [WSG] Joe does Oz

Hey Joe Good to see you on the list. I'll also be speaking at the conference - thrilling the audience with the finer points of semantic markup in the hang over slot (9am on the second day). Would be good to catch up before, during or after - Coffee, beer, whatever. -- Mark Stanton G

Re: [WSG] Content Management tools for non-tech authors

I've got to say the new version of Contribute is excellent in its ease of use, CSS support, (x)HTML standards compliance and accessibility support. I'm really starting to see it as the main option for non-enterprise level content management. Strongly suggest you try it. -- Mark Stant

Re: [WSG] [OT] NZ vs Aust

Scott If I didn't know that you were going to be *very* involved in helping Gary run the Brisbane meetings soon - I'd ban you too. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] [OT] NZ vs Aust

Hey Mike Going this far off topic on this list is a bannable offence - your only option now, if you wish to stay on this list, is to set up a WSG meeting in NZ. (Only kidding about the banning, but please give the meeting idea some thought.) -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] FYI

Also - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html Firefox has been getting some good press recently. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite

andy. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *

Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite

I think that "only for stolen sites" comment is a little off. For example I'll often develop something on my local machine on a URL like http://localhost/project-name and then deploy it on its own URL. is invaluable in this sort of situation. -- Mark Stanton Grude

Re: [WSG] Critique please

or a class name. Describe *why* the data in presented the way it is, rather than describing the presentation. 9.5 out of 10. Good stuff. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] Hiding email address from spambots with CSS

> Of course. The point is just to make it more difficult. A car alarm > doesn't stop car theft, but with all else equal, the thief will choose > one without an alarm. That's fine & true but by making it difficult for spam bots you also make it difficult for your users. -

Re: [WSG] Hiding email address from spambots with CSS

else) the more you lose on accessibility. Spam has to be stopped on delivery - hiding email addresses is a bandaid solution and a poor one at that. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] I've done it again ...

.org/resources/) except that is nice & public and administrable by all WSG memebers. Come on guys - lets make it a worth while resouce! Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstand

Re: [WSG] Re: web standards related rss feeds?

Hey All I've creaked a "Standards related feeds" category in the resources on section on the site - http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat32. Feel free to add links to RSS & Atom feeds there. I've taken the liberty of adding the ones already posted to this thread under the names of those who

Re: [WSG] [THREAD CLOSED] Re: web standards related rss feeds?

Hi Neerav I think this is an excellent idea & I've got lots of great feeds that I'd like to share & I'm sure others do to. The reason I'm closing it is because I don't think the list is the best place for this resource - I'd like to find somewhere more permanent on the site for it. I'm going to e

Re: [WSG] Must Read - THREAD CLOSED

Sorry to be a wet blanket guys but this has little or no bearing on web standards. From: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm The mail list does not cover: * Non-Web Standards related issues and support * Discussion of server-side scriptin

Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

& IE) at least I know what I'm aiming for. Thanks for testing in those browsers - I'll go back to the designers and see what they think. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www

Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

do 90% on a MAC use when they look at an HTML email and then testing in that environment. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com

[WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

ssue and what can I do to fix it? Thanks in advance. Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discus

Re: [WSG] Standard Hacks?

q=css+hacks Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] Many Browers in one place

** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > -- Mark Stanton Tech

Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

el so grumpy all the time. Cheers Mark - Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

rdsgroup.org/resources/documents/doc_6_accesstable.html (view source on this one) for details. Cheers Mark ----- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201

[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *

Re: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion

Guys hate to rain on your parade but if your browser can understand that obfuscation what makes you think that a email address harvestor is not going to be able to? These guys are writing complex viruses that harvest email addresses directly from people's Outlook contact lists, surely they can und

Re: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?

Hey Jackie I agree with you and think maybe I just didn't explain myself properly. A guy in high school who has made a site for his uncle and one for his soccer team is not going to be able to charge the same rate as someone who has been developing site professionally for a number of years. I c

Re: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?

Hey Guys This is a service industry, provide cost based on how much the will cost you to do (i.e. long the work takes you to do). Implementing standards may save you time or add extra development time. For example I feel that CSS based design takes less time and as such should cost less that a de

Re: [WSG]

Hi Taco I really don't know the answers to your questions, but thats never stopped me from trying to answer them in the past so why now? But before I do can I just point out that this is coming off the top of my head & from 5 minutes research on the web. I'm a geek, not a lawyer. >Are there curre

Re: [WSG] Tables are bad because... Crazy idea for validation.

Yeah - they have been working on this new version of about a year. The main aim was to address the concerns that you mentioned. I think they sent it live about a month ago. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2003Aug/0105.html Great minds think a like? Cheers Mark ***

Re: [WSG] Tables are bad because... Crazy idea for validation.

Hi Chris Have you tried turning on verbose output? This can be done by going to the extended interface at http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html or by changing verbose=0 to verbose=1 in the URL. Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webs

Re: [WSG] title question

> I tried, in all my accessibility lovingness to add title tags to some images > on a page today and it is telling me that the title tag is not allowed by the > dtd and it won't parse the page. I'm assuming that you are talking about the title= attribute rather than the tag? I tried the link y

Re: [WSG] height problem

Thanks Patrick Yes you are right about being the top level container, but I guess I was thinking about visible area - I never realised that you could style the . Will try this out for sure. Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://websta

Re: [WSG] Vertical Height Alignment Issues

Hi Please see the list guildines at http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm. If you want a solution to your problem the guidlines will explain what information you are going to need to provide in order to help us help you. Cheers Mark **

Re: [WSG] height problem

Hi Razvan I'd suggest the best option would be to make it a background image on the body tag. Your body tag is going to be your top level containing block so it will always stretch to the height of your content. relative height: properties are always going to be relative to your viewport or visibl

Re: [WSG] Tables are bad because...

Hi John I don't want to weigh into this argument of tables right or wrong - I think all the angles are being covered pretty well at the moment. But I read your post & a couple of things jumped out at me. On the whole it's a good read & I agree with a lot of what you are saying bit this section:

Re: [WSG] What am I doing wrong with the CSS here

Hey Brian > Okay in Moz everything on the MAIN page > http://www.mosincorporated.com/site2/main.php is okay except for the white > field with the scrollbars - this div expands pit about 8 pixels further than > it should - the white of the menu side should be used as a guide as to what > this side

Re: [WSG] [OT] UniversalHead blog

Hey Guys > All I get is an advertising page. Looks as though your domain name > registration hasn't "taken" yet. You should be able to set up your own local DNS entry to do the job in the interim i, all we need is the IP address from Peter & a text editor. 1) Find a file on your computer called

Re: [WSG] What am I doing wrong with the CSS here

Hi Brian I've checked your site in both IE & Firebird and have run it through the CSS & HTML validators (one HTML page fails), but I still can't see the problem. Descriptions such as "everything has gone wacky", "things to display completely differently" and "broken something somewhere" are not r

Re: [WSG] Please take a look at this page.

Hi Kevin I don't have a access to NS6 on a mac, but just a friendly word of advice: Please try to be more descriptive if you really want to get your problem solved. Firstly use a nice descriptive subject line so that people can quickly decide whether or not they are able to assist - I would sugge

Re: [WSG] MovableType virgin

Hi Andy No offence, but discussion of specific server side products is off topic. Please check out the some the MT resource sites (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=moveable+type+%28resources+OR+tutorial+OR+learning%29&btnG=Search) or the MT homepage (http://www.movabletype.org/fre

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML, CSS Validation Tools on Linux !

Sorry - one other thing I forgot to mention... Tidy: http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm f

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML, CSS Validation Tools on Linux !

I know the W3C validator is available as a Debian package (the link checker is also part of the package) - we've got it running locally here. The source of the HTML & CSS validators are available if thats the sort of thing you are looking for. http://validator.w3.org/source/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/

Re: [WSG] Question on javascript

I agree with Ryan - coding for specific browsers is a futile excerise. We do use javascript quite a bit but its usually to provide additional funcitonality to users who are able to handle it. The empahsis is on people still being able to use the site without javascript. This could include things l

Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

Ok guys this is heading off topic - lets keep it to discussion of the ACA site or take it off the list. Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on p

[WSG] XHTML considered useful

Well at least someone has found a use for it - http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/05/02/user-friendly-feeds Cheers Mark PS Sorry for being a troll, but i couldn't resist - please take it in good humour. * The discussion list for http://webs

Re: [WSG] New Site launch: Jands

Hey Peter I haven't checked it out in depth, but I just wanted to say that from the quick glance I had, it looks stunning & the code is pretty sharp to boot. Big congratulations! Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.

Re: [WSG] Compliant tree menu

There is some pretty nice code available at http://www.qld.gov.au/web/cue/template/implementations.html that sounds close to what you want. It doesn't "remember last state" but it does generate some very nice tight & simple markup, works across a range of browers and degrades well in the absences o

Re: [WSG] Improved digest format

I believe there is an Atom feed that you might find more useful. Most blog readers should handle it. http://discuss.webstandardsgroup.org/atom.xml Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.

Re: [WSG] XML Includes?

Hey Scott The doctype that you are using: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> doesn't contain the elements that you are using in your code: mycontent mycontent ...so your document is invalid. I'm not going to jump up & down about it must be valid or you will burn in t

RE: [WSG] XHTML Form + Label - Errors

spec, then read the DTD. Everything you need to know is at w3c.org, it just takes time trying to understand it all. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob:

RE: [WSG] XHTML Form + Label - Errors

"h1", "h2", "h3", "h4", "h5", "h6", "p", "div", "address", "fieldset" start-tag' This is exactly what its saying (almost). If you change: Name: Email Address: To: Name: Email Address:

RE: [WSG] Sickening - CSS Theft

> april fool. The best one I've seen since Kochie's toupee this morning :) http://www.seven.com.au/sunrise/aprilfools Cheers Mark ------ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://w

RE: [WSG] Javascript and Strict Doctype

l401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3</a> might help you decipher it. But the key point is that there is no language attribute. So if you change <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"> src="menu.js"> to src="menu.js"> you should be

[WSG] Sickening - CSS Theft

://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/covers/apr01-04/. Douglas' shameful "new creative" can been seen here: http://www.stopdesign.com/. Cheers Mark ------ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http:/

RE: [WSG] *sigh* drop-downs

ternatives I just think they are the weaker option. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

RE: [WSG] hiring a standards-savvy designer

w.adobe.com/web/features/ zeldman2821/main.html I've always been tempted to get potential graphic artists to write a 500 word commentary on this article before giving them an interview :) Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 995

[WSG] CSS & the Linux documentation project

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/03/30/0041253.shtml?tid=106&tid=126&t id=185&tid=95 Very interesting - even if just to demonstrate how little most people understand about CSS. Cheers Mark ------ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 63

[WSG] Informative subject lines

the list? :) Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guide

RE: [WSG] Serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml

't want to argue about any of this, its been done 100 times before & I certainly don't want to get personal. The only reason I am writing this email is that I expressed an opinion and I don't particularly enjoy having it misrepresented. I am not anti XHTML in any way - I've follo

RE: [WSG] Font size, and how large is large enough?

> When the page specifies 'verdana, arial, helvetica, > sans-serif', such people almost never get to see their preference. ...unless they are using user style sheets, then they get to see whatever they want... Cheers Mark ---------- Mark Stanton Technical Director

RE: [WSG] Serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml

aid that I think the approach you have taken (serving as xml mime type where possible) is one of the more responsible ones at the moment. I still don't think its worth the effort though. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden

RE: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

tands the limitations and advantages of CSS you should be fine. If they design it like a brouchure or a CDROM you're in big trouble. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 041

RE: [WSG] Usability Week 2004

g to your office for 3 days and helping your staff. Now where's that rock I was hiding under Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com **

RE: [WSG] Usability Week 2004

uldn't find pricing on individual sessions Cheers Mark ---------- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] loading links when loading a page.

tly think this would be way more work than its worth, both for you as the developer and for the browser on each page load. Cheers Mark ------ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433

RE: [WSG] opinions on use of css shorthand properties

etely redundant because they are the default values. Unless you have reset these values previously, you don't need to set them to their default values. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.

RE: [WSG] Definition list wish

es/Public/www-html/2002Oct/0009.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2002Aug/thread.html#240 Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com *

[WSG] More links for light reading

How to debug CSS: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/index.php Google goes anti semantic (h1's are to easily abused): http://www.sitepoint.com/article/brandy-google-update Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel:

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

(like CFAUSSIE where this stuff is ok). I'm not meaning to be harsh but we need to be considerate of those that are concerned about mail volume. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

ould this just be "another CSS blog")? Or two lists, one for news and one for implementation issues? Anyway its an open issue at the moment - we're still trying to find the right mix. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty L

RE: [WSG] IE7 fixes CSS glitches for IE

DHTML behavior to load and parse all style > sheets into > > a form that Explorer can understand. You can then use most CSS2 > > selectors without having to resort to CSS hacks." Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd

[WSG] The AIMIA Awards

thought in. They have shown us some respect by looking for our feedback, I'm sure we can make a valuable contribution here. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com *

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

I know but... variablevalue ... is just nicer IMHO. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

th it for about 3 weeks - the memory still causes me to break out in cold sweats. There were so many people at MXDU that I wanted to meet but never got the chance. Maybe next year it'll run for a week :) Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton T

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