Re: [wsjt-devel] Ideas for Development

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Joe, Thank you for your response, sorry to have wasted your time. Comments inserted below. 73 de Bill ND0B -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:57 PM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ideas for Develop

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Joe Taylor
On 1/2/2017 1:33 PM, Gordon Higgins wrote: > What is the meaning of the tail nombers in msk155 > ie g3pxt dk9wi +01 1 8 -0.8 The first number is described in the WSJT-X User Guide, in a table found here: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html#_decoded_l

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 19:54, Black Michael wrote: Here it is with the radius zeroed. The radius did look a bit strange just being on the bottom. Hi Mike, that rather misses the point. The non-customized native windows control (somewhat version dependent) for a progress bar doesn't have radii at the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Ideas for Development

2017-01-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Bill (ND0B) and all, I've been away most of the time since your post, and just now finding time to respond. You gave us a long list of ideas, with no evident prioritization. You mentioned to me that you were "in the process of learning C++ and QT by immersion". Of course you're the best j

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
Here it is with the radius zeroed.The radius did look a bit strange just being on the bottom. https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7t70yxdvrouyms/progressbar2.patch?dl=1 de Mike W9MDB From: Bill Somerville To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:38 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
Bill, I don't see the "mangled" in the Mac version.  Are you referring to no radius on the top of the widget?  Looks the same on Windows. de Mike W9MDB From: Bill Somerville To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 18:15, Bill Somerville wrote: Not just the images but the public functions, nothing to change color. Thanks for the correction, much appreciated,, HI Bill, you can certainly change the rendering of any Qt widget either by using a sytle sheet or delegate if supported or a cus

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Neil Zampella
Just lurking here ... However, I do not feel it is a good idea to mess with the button. I seem to remember that at one time, before v1.6 at least the ENABLE button could be used to stop transmission. However, that was also somewhat confusing since there was a HALT TX button there too.

[wsjt-devel] Heavy list traffic

2017-01-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Reminder to all: This reflector is here to facilitate communication among WSJT developers. We would prefer to keep it open to everyone interested, at least on a "mostly SWL" basis. But it's counterproductive for the list to require volumes of developer responses to user wishes. Of course, su

[wsjt-devel] CQ AA - CQ ZZ

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Hi Joe, Figured I would ask before I went off on a tangent again. What are your plans for CQ AA through CQ ZZ?That seems a reasonable range for what I am proposing to indicate sequence length, SH status and contest mode. Thanks! 73 de Bill ND0B ---

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"a better tool tip is definitely ok, any suggestions? The button caption is a bit more tricky as longer will probably make the UI wider." Suggestions only and not a demand for anything - 1. Change button text from "Enable Tx" to "Auto TX". It's more accurate and shorter. 2. Change button to

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
This works on Windows using a stylesheet.  You got a Mac you could test?  At worst I'd think it would ignore it. Does red on tx, green on rx.Puts the ratio in the bar rather than next to it.Adds a little rounding to the bottom corners.Gets rid of the flashing behavior. https://www.dropbox.com/

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Gordon Higgins
What is the meaning of the tail nombers in msk155 ie g3pxt dk9wi +01 1 8 -0.8 On 2 January 2017 at 18:24, Bill ND0B wrote: > Bill, > > > > Got it. I know where to look now for the exact how of what I want to > do. > > > > Much appreciated! > > > > 73 de Bi

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Bill, Got it. I know where to look now for the exact how of what I want to do. Much appreciated! 73 de Bill ND0B From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:20 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 T

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 17:57, Bill ND0B wrote: I suspected something like this but am still looking into it / getting up to speed.This was why I specifically suggest this apply only to the CQ message as being the shortest, it might, take on something like this and did coach it with “if it will fit”

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 18:09, ANDY DURBIN wrote: " You are trying to force your view of usage which seems unreasonable given there is a valid alternative." I'm not trying to force anything. The user interface is misleading because of the nomenclature that is used on the button, in the option, and

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 18:05, Bill ND0B wrote: Not just the images but the public functions, nothing to change color. Thanks for the correction, much appreciated,, HI Bill, you can certainly change the rendering of any Qt widget either by using a sytle sheet or delegate if supported or a custom pa

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
" You are trying to force your view of usage which seems unreasonable given there is a valid alternative." I'm not trying to force anything. The user interface is misleading because of the nomenclature that is used on the button, in the option, and in the tool tips. The functionality is c

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:00 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73 On 02/01/2017 17:55, Bill ND0B wrote: Even just color? Hi Bill, Yes I'm afraid so. See the images here fo

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 17:55, Bill ND0B wrote: Even just color? Hi Bill, Yes I'm afraid so. See the images here for examples: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qprogressbar.html#details 73 Bill G4WJS. -- Check out the vibrant tech comm

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:47 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag? On 02/01/2017 17:12, Bill ND0B wrote: I posted a few things I am working on a couple of days ago. This is one

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Even just color? From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:51 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73 On 02/01/2017 17:47, Black Michael wrote: I kinda' like that ideathat flashing bar shoul

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Mike, I am kind of the “red” means transmit school. That seems to show up a lot of places other than WSJT. While it is “wicked awesome” and someone probably spent some time figuring out how to do it I find the flashing aspect of it a bit annoying too. Maybe a less redder red? On

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 17:47, Black Michael wrote: I kinda' like that ideathat flashing bar should have more meaningit's really a bit annoying but giving it some more meaning would make it more tolerable. But should it go red or yellow? I can see it either way. Yellow matches all the other T

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
Joe, "Of course you're welcome to use good-old-r3673 as long as you like. But you'll then do without three years worth of very significant program enhancements and improvements " Yes, of course I understand that. I only referenced r3673 to show that what Bill stated was untrue. 3 years ago

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
I kinda' like that ideathat flashing bar should have more meaningit's really a bit annoying but giving it some more meaning would make it more tolerable. But should it go red or yellow?  I can see it either way.  Yellow matches all the other Tx indicators...but red says "hey dude...you'r

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 17:12, Bill ND0B wrote: I posted a few things I am working on a couple of days ago. This is one of them and I believe there is room for a single character in the CQ message to indicate this and a few other operational items. Here were my comments on what I propose to develop…

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Mike, Of course LOL!! This is the second time in as many weeks I have been caught shooting my mouth off about something that got fixed one version ago from where I am at. Thank you for the correction!! 73 de Bill ND0B From: Black Michael [mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com] Sent: Mo

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Or alternately the progress bar for the current sequence could be colored red or green depending on “progress” of TX or RX respectively. 73 de Bill ND0B From: Black Michael [mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:36 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Andy, comments in line below. On 02/01/2017 17:22, ANDY DURBIN wrote: There was always a Halt TX button but, with the r3673 functionality of Enable TX, I don't think it was needed. Removing it would not be reversion. The internal implementation is an auto transmit enable, having it al

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Good morning, I just noticed this morning using r7441 that TX Enable is disabled (and the log prompt pops up) at the start of a TX4 transmission. This is new behavior in one of the recent versions and I agree with those asserting it appears to be in error. The contact can be considered over

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
That Green/Yellow makes sense to me...that coloring matches the rx/tx mode and the colors on the Rx Frequency list plus the status line.  All would show green on Rx and yellow on Tx. The main advantage in the red is that it does stand out letting you know you will be transmitting which is an imp

Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread Bill ND0B
Good morning George, I posted a few things I am working on a couple of days ago. This is one of them and I believe there is room for a single character in the CQ message to indicate this and a few other operational items. Here were my comments on what I propose to develop… > 8.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"so are you saying that you want to revert to having no "Halt Tx" button and have the "Enable Tx" button have two functions that cannot be separated?" There was always a Halt TX button but, with the r3673 functionality of Enable TX, I don't think it was needed. Removing it would not be reversi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
Maybe it should be Yellow when enabled and not transmitting?Red when transmitting?  A bit like the status line? Just throwing out ideas for consideration.  I think those of us who have been operating this for a while may not be able to perceive the new user experience. de Mike W9MDB Fro

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Andy -- K3WYC wrote: > That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so I > can check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx" button > while transmitting a message does stop the message transmission! WSJT-X v1.3 (r3673) was made more than three years ago. At

[wsjt-devel] MSK144 Timing Flag?

2017-01-02 Thread George J Molnar
Is there room in the MSK144 protocol to include a “duration” flag, indicating the sequence length selected by the transmitting station? In meteor scatter use, length isn’t usually obvious by listening, and mismatched sequence times could create undesired interference and longer times to complete

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 16:50, Black Michael wrote: I think it's a case of semantics. If you push "Tx" button on rig it starts Tx"Enable Tx" sounds a lot like that. "Enable Tx Next" might be more appropos. Even then if you Enable during a Tx period it starts but at least that still meets the "Next

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Black Michael
I think it's a case of semantics.  If you push "Tx" button on rig it starts Tx"Enable Tx" sounds a lot like that. "Enable Tx Next" might be more appropos.  Even then if you Enable during a Tx period it starts but at least that still meets the "Next" behavior I think.  Or "Tx Allowed". de Mi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 16:40, ANDY DURBIN wrote: That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so I can check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx" button while transmitting a message does stop the message transmission! "Enable TX" used to be just that - Enable

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"Once a transmission is started the "Halt Tx" button is the way to stop it, toggling "Enable Tx" to off does not do that, it never has." Bill, That assertion is simply not true. I keep v1.3 r3673 on my computer so I can check things like this. In r3673 pressing the lit "Enable Tx" button whil

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 14:54, ANDY DURBIN wrote: My preference would be to go back to it being an Enable TX function. Hi Andy, the "Enable Tx" button has always been "Enable auto Tx", in fact the underlying variable name is autoButton and it always has been. Because the message protocols restrict yo

Re: [wsjt-devel] Disable Tx after RRR/73

2017-01-02 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"I figured out my issue with the auto sequencing stopping at RRR. It does not have anything to do with with prompt to log pop up. I had Disable TX after sending 73 checkmarked in Settings/General tab. For some reason, it is disabling TX after sending RRR instead." You have been caught by what

Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent

2017-01-02 Thread Jay Hainline
Hello Bill. I did not uncheck "Auto Seq". Just the "Disable TX after sending 73" box in the Settings. I still have "Prompt me to log QSO" checkmarked but the program does not stop TX after sending RRR now. It continues on to TX5 sending the 73 message. I have to click on the "Enable TX" button to m

Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent

2017-01-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/01/2017 13:40, Jay Hainline wrote: I figured out my issue with the auto sequencing stopping at RRR. It does not have anything to do with with prompt to log pop up. I had Disable TX after sending 73 checkmarked in Settings/General tab. For some reason, it is disabling TX after sending RRR

Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent

2017-01-02 Thread Jay Hainline
I figured out my issue with the auto sequencing stopping at RRR. It does not have anything to do with with prompt to log pop up. I had Disable TX after sending 73 checkmarked in Settings/General tab. For some reason, it is disabling TX after sending RRR instead. 73 Jay KA9CFD From: Ja