Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Earl Needham
At 02:40 PM 7/19/2007, Curt, WE7U wrote: That said, there's no reason not to approach him and ask him what's up with the possible fees. There may be none or they may be low enough that it's a don't care. Or: They may be high and then legal advice might be necessary to figure out what's possibl

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Gerry Creager wrote: > As I recall, there was approximately one station reporting "problems" > associated with the OpenTrak incident in question. The lack of > reproducibility suggests that the null hypothesis was rejected. Another data point: I ran a dual OpenTrac/APRS tra

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Lance Cotton wrote: > Well, I think we ended up doing a little survey and found zero APRS > programs that didn't check PID, right? More than likely, but there's always the possibility that we missed one or two, or that new programs may forget to check the PID byte. > It's h

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Gerry Creager
Curt, WE7U wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, J. Lance Cotton wrote: Oh, I thought you already did! hi hi There's no possible way that OpenTRAC could interfere with APRS any more than APRS interferes with other APRS operation. I disagree with that statement, but only slightly. There's no way

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Lance Cotton
Curt, WE7U wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, J. Lance Cotton wrote: There's no possible way that OpenTRAC could interfere with APRS any more than APRS interferes with other APRS operation. I disagree with that statement, but only slightly. There's no way a "properly coded" APRS program would be b

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, J. Lance Cotton wrote: > Oh, I thought you already did! hi hi > There's no possible way that OpenTRAC could interfere with APRS any more > than APRS interferes with other APRS operation. I disagree with that statement, but only slightly. There's no way a "properly coded

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread J. Lance Cotton
on 7/19/2007 3:40 PM Curt, WE7U said the following: > I've always heard that you can't protect a protocol, but IANAL. The typical way of protecting (in some sense) a protocol or standard is to aggressively protect the copyright of the specification document. The actual grouping of bits or whatnot

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread James Ewen
On 7/19/07, Curt, WE7U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've always heard that you can't protect a protocol, but IANAL. If you have enough money you can protect whatever you want... http://www.sbszoo.com/irlp/ When we put together the local IRLP link, I created a "fun" logo to put on the box. With

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Gerry Creager wrote: > Xastir's use of the protocols is well established and without dissent. > From Bob or any of the other developers. In fact, no one has > complained when anyone wanted to come up with another implementation. Hmmm. I can recall when Xastir was the basta

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, James Ewen wrote: > Does Xastir get around the license for reception because the software > is not for sale, or did someone purchase a license? I would guess that > if Xastir purchased a license somewhere along the way, that it would > probably go against the GPL license... B

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Gerry Creager
Xastir's use of the protocols is well established and without dissent. From Bob or any of the other developers. In fact, no one has complained when anyone wanted to come up with another implementation. Bob also didn't charge me when I used APRS-DOS (pre-Xastir) to track cows... gerry James E

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread James Ewen
On 7/19/07, Curt, WE7U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Jason Winningham wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:20 PM, James Ewen wrote: > > > Plus APRS is available for no fee to the amateur radio community, but > > you need to talk to Bob Bruninga about licensing it for commercial > >

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Jason Winningham wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:20 PM, James Ewen wrote: > > > Plus APRS is available for no fee to the amateur radio community, but > > you need to talk to Bob Bruninga about licensing it for commercial > > use. > > I thought that was for the application APR

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Jason Winningham
On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:20 PM, James Ewen wrote: Plus APRS is available for no fee to the amateur radio community, but you need to talk to Bob Bruninga about licensing it for commercial use. I thought that was for the application APRS-DOS, not the protocol itself? If that gets to be a probl

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread James Ewen
On 7/19/07, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Getting a new license with data emissions permitted will take quite some time (6 months or so turnaround in my experience to get a public safety pool license application through the system). Plus APRS is available for no fee to the amateur radio

Re: [Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Tom Russo
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 10:21:26AM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > I am not Ham literate, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night and > I have ordered the license prep manual > > I have read that APRS is cond

[Xastir] Radio frequency question from a simpleton

2007-07-19 Thread Jim Tolbert
I am not Ham literate, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night and I have ordered the license prep manual I have read that APRS is conducted on 144.39 Hz. My assumption is that there is nothing inherent in Xastir that is tied to that frequency, but rather the frequency is