Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Dan Brown
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Chuck Byam wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 18:18 -0500, Gerry Creager N5JXS wrote: > > Tom Russo wrote: > > We could go on and on about wikis in general. I still believe that done > > right, it's a great way to document a project and have some interactive > > comments. For

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Chuck Byam
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 18:18 -0500, Gerry Creager N5JXS wrote: > Tom Russo wrote: > We could go on and on about wikis in general. I still believe that done > right, it's a great way to document a project and have some interactive > comments. For example, I used a wiki entry to document model run

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Gerry Creager N5JXS
Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:16:44PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: You'd be the one to answer: are documents in a wiki a problem for dial-up access? I'd not consider documents in a wiki to be a problem just becau

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Kyle Kienapfel
With wikis theres a perceptual "anyone can edit it so I'll let them do it". Actually with any project only a small percentage of users contribute, but maybe HAMs are usually in that group of people that'll step up for CVS README -> wiki could have a bot do that. But I think we can be trusted to p

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Jeremy Utley
On 9/29/06, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do prefer having local documentation in plain text, and use grep (and "less" with its search function, and emacs, and vi...) to find stuff much more quickly than I usually can on any wiki I've ever had the misfortune of trying to get answers on.

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:59:41PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Tom Russo wrote: > > > I'd not consider documents in a wiki to be a problem just because of > > dial-up. > > I have observed, however, that in a

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Tom Russo wrote: > I'd not consider documents in a wiki to be a problem just because of dial-up. > I have observed, however, that in almost every case in projects I'm interested > in, that wiki documentation has been mostly worthless -- but that's a rant > for another day. I'

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:16:44PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > > You'd be the one to answer: are documents in a wiki a problem for dial-up > access? I'd not consider documents in a wiki to be a problem just because of dial-up. I

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Steven Friis
Bennett, Bruce wrote: If I was dial-up, I'd be begging for someone to ship me the DVD!! :) I do have a 4 DVD set available that covers all of USA with the Tiger sets. Steve/WM5Z ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/c

RE: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Bennett, Bruce
> > >Great, except for those that are doing installs away from the > > >internet, or the internet is particularly costly or slow for them, > > > > Hmmm... I don't think it is really feasable to install xastir and maps > > WITHOUT > > a fair internet connection - I have over two gigabytes investe

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:17:57AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > >Great, except for those that are doing installs away from the > >internet, or the internet is particularly costly or slow for them, > > Hmmm... I don't think it is

RE: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Bennett, Bruce
>Great, except for those that are doing installs away from the >internet, or the internet is particularly costly or slow for them, Hmmm... I don't think it is really feasable to install xastir and maps WITHOUT a fair internet connection - I have over two gigabytes invested in xastir and four-surr

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Jason Winningham wrote: > On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: > > > So we extract the Wiki documentation periodically (stable releases?) > > daily (or hourly) cron job. I'd certainly prefer something where CVS was kept up-to-date from the master, if the master i

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Jason Winningham
On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: So we extract the Wiki documentation periodically (stable releases?) daily (or hourly) cron job. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Gerry Creager wrote: > So we extract the Wiki documentation periodically (stable releases?) and > box it up. Yea. Just don't know the procedure yet or whether I have access to do so. That'll have to be worked out. -- Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Gerry Creager
So we extract the Wiki documentation periodically (stable releases?) and box it up. Curt, WE7U wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Bennett, Bruce wrote: I would guess that over time the wiki would replace the text documentation, since it is simpler and faster to update as xastir continues to evolve.

RE: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Bennett, Bruce wrote: > I would guess that over time the wiki would replace the text documentation, > since it is > simpler and faster to update as xastir continues to evolve. In extreme, all > that would > be left in the INSTALL file would be a link to the appropriate sectio

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Gerry Creager
Personal perspective: Wiki is a DOCUMENTATION tool. It's not really an intra-group communications tool. Every wiki I've used for the latter has shown this to be the case. I'd recommend using the Wiki for creating a best of breed documentation project and to incorporate a dynamic FAQ page.

RE: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Bennett, Bruce
>my $0.02... >-Jason >kg4wsv Good points - all three of them. I agree with your conclusions. I had not seen the fledgling wiki on www.xastir.org - it's a good start! Overview, and also linkage to all those diverse elements (for example "What is a DRG?") that tie to xastir don't currently have a

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Jason Winningham wrote: > would it be possible to create one from the other? Maybe use the > wiki as the master, and use some sort of text extraction tool to > create text files for the source distribution (or distribute html and > text, or just html)? > > Or create wiki/html

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Jason Winningham
On Sep 29, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: In fact, I'm already wondering if we won't over time be creating TWO master sets of documentation between our current Wiki and our distributed text files. would it be possible to create one from the other? Maybe use the wiki as the master, and

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Jason Winningham wrote: > Off hand, I'd say it would only dilute the useful information. > There's already an APRS wiki (http://info.aprs.net) and I understand > the xastir project home page just got a wiki as well. What we need > are all the documentation efforts in one plac

Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Jason Winningham
On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Bennett, Bruce wrote: What are folks feelings about an xastir entry in wikipedia? Off hand, I'd say it would only dilute the useful information. There's already an APRS wiki (http://info.aprs.net) and I understand the xastir project home page just got a wiki

[Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Bennett, Bruce
What are folks feelings about an xastir entry in wikipedia? It could wind up being a nice way to compile all the needed information related to xastir, including map information, where-to-get dependent parts, etc. Bruce Bennett KB8ROP [EMAIL PROTECTED] (440) 352-8600 X 3350 --