[xmail] Re: SPF + Win32

2004-12-09 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, lascjr wrote: Hi, I have the XMail 1.20 + W2K Server working fine, but i don't have success with the install of SPF Filter (xm-spf.pl). What steps did you follow to instal xm-spf.pl in XMail? - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-10-12 Thread Shiloh Jennings
There are filters available to do filtering with XMail based on SPF = data. However, there are two other important issues to fully supporting SPF. = One is SASL SMTP (allowing customers to send email on port 587, but only = with SMTP AUTH). You can easily bind XMail's SMTP service to both ports

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-10-12 Thread Kevin Williams
Please explain why you think it is not practical to add the SPF record to your DNS. Publishing an SPF record in your DNS is step 1, and you do not need to do anything else if you don't feel like it. This just makes life easier for everyone who receives messages from your domains. Shiloh

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-10-12 Thread Shiloh Jennings
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of Kevin Williams Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF Please explain why you think it is not practical to add the SPF record=20 to your DNS. Publishing an SPF record

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-10-12 Thread Kevin Williams
by other ISPs if you publish SPF records without proper SRS support within your email server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of Kevin Williams Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF

[xmail] Re: SPF?

2004-08-16 Thread Achim Schmidt
Am Di, 2004-08-17 um 02.08 schrieb Nick Marino: Davide are you familiar with SPF and do you have any plans on incorporating it into Xmail? SPF: Sender Policy Framework http://spf.pobox.com/index.html Did you take a look on xmailservers homepage or have you read this mailinglists some

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Peter Lindeman
Davide Libenzi wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? Me me: http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF record made in DNS, if the domain does not have it a mail will

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Michael Luke
Peter Lindeman wrote: Davide Libenzi wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? Me me: http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF record made in DNS, if the domain does

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Peter Lindeman wrote: Davide Libenzi wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? Me me: http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF record

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Kevin Williams
Peter Lindeman wrote: Davide Libenzi wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? Me me: http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF record made in DNS, if the domain does

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Mon, 31 May 2004, Michael Luke wrote: Peter Lindeman wrote: Davide Libenzi wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? Me me: http://www.xmailserver.org/xm-spf.pl From what I have seen now from it is that a domain

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-31 Thread Tracy
At 12:06 5/31/2004, you wrote: From what I have seen now from it is that a domain should have a SPF record made in DNS, if the domain does not have it a mail will always pass. As long as not all domains in the whole world do have SPF records what is the sense of this at all? Reducing bounces

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-30 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 30 May 2004, Michael Luke wrote: Hi everybody. I've just started using Xmail 1.18 and am impressed by how well it runs. Does Xmail contain features that I can use to verify Sender Policy Framework rules? http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html This sounds like a perfect candidate for the

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-30 Thread Tracy
At 13:14 5/30/2004, you wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2004, Michael Luke wrote: Hi everybody. I've just started using Xmail 1.18 and am impressed by how well it runs. Does Xmail contain features that I can use to verify Sender Policy Framework rules? http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html This

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-30 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 30 May 2004, Tracy wrote: At 13:14 5/30/2004, you wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2004, Michael Luke wrote: Hi everybody. I've just started using Xmail 1.18 and am impressed by how well it runs. Does Xmail contain features that I can use to verify Sender Policy Framework

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-30 Thread Tracy
At 13:22 5/30/2004, you wrote: This sounds like a perfect candidate for the new pre-data SMTP filters. Any takers? I'm looking at it, but not moving very quickly. There are a couple of Win32 SPF libraries on the net, and libraries for C++, python, and java (didn't see any for perl...

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-05-30 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 30 May 2004, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2004, Michael Luke wrote: Hi everybody. I've just started using Xmail 1.18 and am impressed by how well it runs. Does Xmail contain features that I can use to verify Sender Policy Framework rules?

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-26 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No? Good point. SpamAssassin 2.70 is going to support SPF, so we could just have SA do the SPF lookups instead of

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-26 Thread Charles Frolick
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shiloh Jennings Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF The spammers are not stupid, so they don't use @[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. anymore and SPF is useless. ;( You are missing the bigger picture. Once everybody is using SPF

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-26 Thread Shiloh Jennings
I can see the point for worms, but spammers can simply register throw away domains to spam from and set up SPF rules that allow all from that domain. Many spammers already strictly use throwaway domains. I really see the anti-spam war as very much like the anti-virus war, anything and

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-26 Thread CLEMENT Francis
-Message d'origine- De : Shiloh Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : vendredi 26 mars 2004 18:07 =C0 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [xmail] Re: SPF =20 =20 I can see the point for worms, but spammers can simply=20 register throw away domains to spam from and set up SPF

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shiloh Jennings
http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html = SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail What about XMail? I figured I would bring this topic back up. :) AOL is already publishing SPF records for their domain. Any email server with SPF support is able to automatically filtering

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html = SPF is developing support in Postfix, Exim, Qmail, and Sendmail What about XMail? I figured I would bring this topic back up. :) AOL is already publishing SPF records for their domain. Any email server

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shawn Anderson
is really getting to me and my customers... Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:13 PM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: http

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shawn Anderson
30% of the SPAM -- that would be an awesome start :) S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:56 PM To: XMail mailing list Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: Now

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: I really do understand your point :) But look at the amount of spam -- something needs to be done. It looks like some serious players are backing this particular idea. So what about going back the discussion that was on the list for a while

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Shiloh Jennings
Then do an SPF filter in Perl. You don't need to do it inside XMail. You have all the info inside the spool file XMail header. No? Good point. SpamAssassin 2.70 is going to support SPF, so we could just have SA do the SPF lookups instead of XMail. That is fair. What I am more interested in

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Wim Verveen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Davide Libenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 26 maart 2004 1:56 Aan: XMail mailing list Onderwerp: [xmail] Re: SPF =20 On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote: =20 Now you are getting into that chicken or egg argument :-/ =20 I agree, I=20 would

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-03-25 Thread Snke Ruempler
And as much as I am not a fan of MS or AOL, between the two of them they control way more than 0.001% of the mail traffic on the internet. If you add all the hotmail users and aol users, I would argue that you have more than 30% of the internet mail users just in those two groups. Plus even

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-19 Thread Charles Frolick
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Don Drake wrote: I agree, this is getting a lot of attention lately... When more than 1% of the existing internet mail infrastructure will use it, I'll think about it. I do not want to add

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-19 Thread Shiloh Jennings
that SA is being used by at least 1% of the internet mail infrastructure. - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Don Drake wrote: I agree

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-19 Thread Don Drake
SpamAssassin does not do SPF. It will incorporate it in a future version. -Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF Spamassasin

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-19 Thread Shiloh Jennings
I think SA 2.70 does, but not SA 2.63. SA 2.70 is available but not considered production ready. - Original Message - From: Charles Frolick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:56 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: SPF Spamassasin doesn't do SPF

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-18 Thread Don Drake
I agree, this is getting a lot of attention lately... -Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Orion Productions Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] SPF http://spf.pobox.com/intro.html =

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-18 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Don Drake wrote: I agree, this is getting a lot of attention lately... When more than 1% of the existing internet mail infrastructure will use it, I'll think about it. I do not want to add code to XMail for a non standard that might die tomorrow. - Davide - To

[xmail] Re: SPF

2004-02-18 Thread Liron Newman
Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Don Drake wrote: I agree, this is getting a lot of attention lately... When more than 1% of the existing internet mail infrastructure will use it, I'll think about it. I do not want to add code to XMail for a non standard that might die