Re: [Zen] Zen in action *

2012-10-18 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
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Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get rid of fear *

2012-10-18 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
Dear Merle >From your post "i need help in the fear dept...and anxiety...i am forever the nervous nellie...merle" You are afraid because of your more thinking. Relax. You are thinking because you think, you can change your life by your action alone. Please note life is happening on its own, it i

[Zen] How to get ride of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Suresh
Dear Mr.Bharath, I understand your point. But Ramana Maharishi answered from his state of mind. But communication should be always at the level of receiver. Many attain highest consciousness level, but do not accumulate the ability of expressive language before their attainment of highest consc

Re: [Zen] Zen in action

2012-10-18 Thread mike brown
C'mon folks. Here's an opportunity to watch a true master of his art. Or are you just a bunch of boring, soulless freaks?... From: mike brown To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012, 13:55 Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen in action Shitt

Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get rid of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 suresh...they made sense to me... merle   Suresh, Your post didn't make a lot of sense to me. I hope others on the forum can understand more what you mean to say and reply to you. In the meantime, Welcome! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Suresh" wrote: > > Mr.Bharath, > > So

Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get rid of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 edgar... he is not a super god..he does his best... i  need to tackle this myself.. it is my nervous disposition at times   i have a long history of tales to tell  do i air myself on a public forum.. who's wanting to listen?  it is very complicated me you are asking to disclose any hands up as t

Re: [Zen] Re: 24/7/365

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 joe..thank you as always..you are spot on...i must stand straight and i must sit straight...yes the spam story... my only concern is that the emails i write get to the forum and not end up in junk mail for others...enjoy your coming weekend and keep painting...best... merle   Merle, No "OM

[Zen] Re: spam

2012-10-18 Thread Joe
Merle, The world is changing. They say that this is the Dharma-ending Age. Maybe it's happening, alright. --Joe PS Dunno; I am still a poster (-child) and reader at the Website; never sent an email or received one, in the Group. PPS It's possible that your email client is now more stringe

[Zen] Re: 24/7/365

2012-10-18 Thread Joe
Merle, No "OM"-ing in Zen practice. That's some other kind of practice. The straight back is just the most comfortable way to sit, one finds, after a week or so of continuous sitting on retreat, or months of sitting at home. The body makes its own chiropractic adjustment on itself and it save

Re: [Zen] retry

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Not in my spam box either I read using gmail On Oct 18, 2012 4:56 PM, "Merle Lester" wrote: > > > > > are my emails ending up in your spam box..they are for me...what's going > on...merle > > > to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just > sitting cross-legged with a str

Re: [Zen] zen

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Not for me... EDgar On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > are my emails ending up in your spam box..they are for me...what's going > on...merle > > > to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just sitting > cross-legged with a stra

Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get rid of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Merkle, errr Merlin, err Merle, And why isn't your big strapping man with the tight abs protecting you and making you feel safe I must ask? :-) Edgar On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > i need help in the fear dept...and anxiety...i am forever the nervous > nellie...mer

Fw: [Zen] zen

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
     are my emails ending up in your spam box..they are for me...what's going on...merle    to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just sitting cross-legged with a straight back like a wooden plank and saying   it's zenning completely 24/7/365

Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get rid of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
i need help in the fear dept...and anxiety...i am forever the nervous nellie...merle   Suresh, Your post didn't make a lot of sense to me. I hope others on the forum can understand more what you mean to say and reply to you. In the meantime, Welcome! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroup

[Zen] spam

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 when i send a message all my emails to zen forum end up in my spam box... why ?..even the retry ones now?..merle Merle www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1

[Zen] retry

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
   are my emails ending up in your spam box..they are for me...what's going on...merle    to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just sitting cross-legged with a straight back like a wooden plank and saying   it's zenning completely 24/7/365 merle  

[Zen] 24/7/365

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just sitting cross-legged with a straight back like a wooden plank and saying   it's zenning completely 24/7/365 merle   Bill, Yes they are active Bill, but then most of them claim they aren't dong Zen when the

[Zen] shades of grey

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 jesus bill..you are so so so..black and white..it's one or the other..no shades of grey eh?...merle   Edgar, Of course I don't know who you've been talking to so can't really refute that, but it might be just a misunderstanding. For example when I say 'I eat when hungry, sleep when

Re: [Zen] Re: welcome

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
hey bill!..why would you keep asking all those questions from edgar over and over again if you did not miss him?,..merle   A, I know you love me Bill!  Come on, just admit it! Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:57 PM, billsmart wrote:   >Edgar, > >Correction: SOME of us missed you...

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 ah...this makes me laugh out loud...and bill!  remember THE GOLDEN RULE:  we are all ONE!..hanging off the same "tree" .  merle/ edgar.../ bill!!! Actually I'm just one of Merle's MANY multiple personalities... You are another! :-) EDgar On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:4

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Joe
Edgar, It's a good answer. People who talk about Zen -- say, Zen teachers -- are always answering the same questions again and again. And the zen literature gets bigger and bigger every year because each generation must say in its own way and in its own words, "Zen is a transmission of mind o

[Zen] Re: Re How to get ride of fear *

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Suresh, Zen does not 'say' anything. It's not a religion or philosophy so doesn't have any specific teachings on fear or anything else for that matter. Zen is a collection of techniques that assist you in realizing Buddha Nature. The most common of these is zen meditation - or zazen. Zazen i

Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get ride of fear *

2012-10-18 Thread SURESH JAGADEESAN
This on how to get ride of fear. Can you explain what zen says on this Suresh On Oct 18, 2012 5:47 PM, "Bill!" wrote: > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (billsm...@hhs1963.org) Add cleanup > rule

Re: [Zen] tears of blood!

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Edgar, Of course I don't know who you've been talking to so can't really refute that, but it might be just a misunderstanding. For example when I say 'I eat when hungry, sleep when tired and wake when rested', I don't mean that in a passive sense, no do I mean that's all that I do. I mean I d

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Oh no! Now I might have to get cyber cards that say One of Three Moderator...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen wrote: > > Bill, > > Actually I'm just one of Merle's MANY multiple personalities... > > You are another! > :-) > > EDgar > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Bi

Re: [Zen] Zen in action

2012-10-18 Thread mike brown
Shi! I've done it again! Here's the link (old school style): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaGRl8-QKoU&NR=1&feature=endscreen From: mike brown To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, 18 Octo

[Zen] Zen in action

2012-10-18 Thread mike brown
There's nothing better than watching a master at one with his/her art. If you watch this video, please watch it right to the end. And if you don't get goose pimples - you're not alive. Zen in action Aussie style! Mike

Re: [Zen] tears of blood!

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Bill, Yes they are active Bill, but then most of them claim they aren't dong Zen when they ARE being active... They claim they are doing zen only when sitting passively... That's the difference.. Edgar On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Bill! wrote: > > Edgar, > > I think most zen practitioners

[Zen] Re: Re How to get ride of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Suresh, Your post didn't make a lot of sense to me. I hope others on the forum can understand more what you mean to say and reply to you. In the meantime, Welcome! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Suresh" wrote: > > Mr.Bharath, > > So it is your answer and a Trainer and swami Suk

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Bill, Actually I'm just one of Merle's MANY multiple personalities... You are another! :-) EDgar On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > Why is it I have the suspicion that you and Merle are actually the same > person - just different personas? You both make what I consider

[Zen] Re How to get ride of fear

2012-10-18 Thread Suresh
Mr.Bharath, So it is your answer and a Trainer and swami Sukhabhodananda appealed to your mind, so you accept their words as it is. >From your mail - "I have been seeing postings with wordings like Atman,Brahman,Parabrahman,Consciousness, Super consciousness,Inner consciousness,Inner Integrity

Re: [Zen] tears of blood!

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Edgar, I think most zen practitioners are very active, but not active in doing the things you and your co-conspirator Merle are looking for. I think most zen practitioners are active changing the world from the bottom up rather than the top down. That is changing ourselves first and then radiatin

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Edgar, Why is it I have the suspicion that you and Merle are actually the same person - just different personas? You both make what I consider are outlandish statements and the when I try to pin you down to explain you both just walk away. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owe

[Zen] Re: wecome

2012-10-18 Thread Bill!
Edgar, I had ordered new cyber cards with my title changed from CO-Moderator to Sole-Moderator (or I was also thinking Soul-Moderator), but have now had to CANCEL the order! Humbug! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen wrote: > > A, I know you love me Bill! Come on, jus

Re: [Zen] Repeating Daily Question for Edgar - Day 6

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Bill, Zen is NOT answering the same question I've answered many times before to no avail... Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:04 PM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > It's Day 6 for the Repeating Daily Question, but actually the 9th time I've > asked. I see you've finally returned to the forum after al

Re: [Zen] Re: wecome

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Thanks Joe, I missed all you guys too during my enforced absence... Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Joe wrote: > Edgar, > > Bill! is right. My left brain missed you. Or is it my right? Always mixing > those up. I never found it to "matter". And, from the inside, I don't know if > left i

Re: [Zen] Re: wecome

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
A, I know you love me Bill! Come on, just admit it! Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:57 PM, billsmart wrote: > Edgar, > > Correction: SOME of us missed you...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Â thank you edgar..i see you are onboard agai

Re: [Zen] tears of blood!

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
KG for one... What Bill! says as opposed to what he actually does for another... :-) Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar and Joe, > > Where did you get the idea that 'zen practitioners' are predominately passive? > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"

Re: [Zen] wecome

2012-10-18 Thread Edgar Owen
Thanks for missing me Merle! Edgar On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > thank you edgar..i see you are onboard again1...welcome back..we all missed > you..merle > > > Merle, > > I'm getting it fine. Bill doesn't control what goes to anyone's spam box. > It's controll

[Zen] welcome

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
we all missed you edgar!.merle   Merle www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 From: billsmart To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:57 PM Subject: [Zen] Re: wecome   Edgar, Correction: SOME of us missed you...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogr

Re: [Zen] Re: fix the mess NOW

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
no oil for me joe..i'm allergic to them..merle  Bill, May it always be so! Glad to hear the claim and to await the evidence. ;-) _Ad hominem, hominy grits, pasta e fagiole_, etc., per omnia saecula, saeculorum_. Just don't haul me into court to explain that exhortation. And don't forget to

Re: [Zen] Re: tears of blood!

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 bill!  yes i am  merle   Merle, But, more importantly, YOU are doing something about it! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >  and so bill!..i know from experience and observation that climate change > and global warming are real.. > i see the evidence

Re: [Zen] retry

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 girl is fine...merle   Bill!, Now, now; that's no "girl"; that's our COUSIN you be talkin' about: MERLE? Second time today. You're getting AWFULLY familiar, there! Meester Beel! It *IS* good on her, though. Cheers! --Joe ;-) > "Bill!" wrote: > > What's PROBABLY happening is there

Re: [Zen] retry

2012-10-18 Thread Merle Lester
 it's a bit our of date..merle   Joe, I did not mean to be disrespectful. I THINK that is a common Aussie saying. At least I hear it from the ex-pat Aussies I play golf with here in Thailand. Maybe is should be: 'Good on ya, sheila!' Better? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com,