Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS cabling was Re: aoc-sat2-mv8

2007-12-18 Thread James C. McPherson
Al Hopper wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: > > ... snip . >> That will be very good info to have - there's too little information >> and personal experience surrounding the SAS cabling world as yet. > > Here's a couple of resources: > > SAS Integrators Guide: > wget ht

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does Oracle support ZFS as a file system with Oracle RAC?

2007-12-18 Thread Louwtjie Burger
On 12/19/07, David Magda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:23, Mike Gerdts wrote: > > > 2) Database files - I'll lump redo logs, etc. in with this. In Oracle > >RAC these must live on a shared-rw (e.g. clustered VxFS, NFS) file > >system. ZFS does not do this. > > If y

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Mark J Musante
I can think of two things to check: First, is there a 'bootfs' line in your grub entry? I didn't see it in the original email; not sure if it was left out or it simply isn't present. If it's not present, ensure the 'bootfs' property is set on your pool. Secondly, ensure that there's a z

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
On Dec 18, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Rob Logan wrote: > >> I guess the zpool.cache in the bootimage got corrupted? > not on zfs :-) perhaps a path to a drive changed? heh - probably. This is off topic but now this brings us to another problem... My fellow syadmin here at work was trying to get sola

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Rob Logan
> I guess the zpool.cache in the bootimage got corrupted? not on zfs :-) perhaps a path to a drive changed? Rob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discus

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Rob Logan wrote: > >> bootfs rootpool/rootfs > > does "grep zfs /mnt/etc/vfstab" look like: > > rootpool/rootfs- / zfs - no - > > (bet it doesn't... edit like above and reboot) That is exactly what it looks like :^( > > > or second g

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
On Dec 18, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Michael Hale wrote: > We have a machine that is configured with zfs boot , Nevada v67- we > have two pools, rootpool and datapool. It has been working ok since > June. Today it kernel panicked and now when we try to boot it up, > it gets to the grub screen, we

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does Oracle support ZFS as a file system with Oracle RAC?

2007-12-18 Thread David Magda
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:23, Mike Gerdts wrote: > 2) Database files - I'll lump redo logs, etc. in with this. In Oracle >RAC these must live on a shared-rw (e.g. clustered VxFS, NFS) file >system. ZFS does not do this. If you can use NFS, can't you put things on ZFS and then export?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Rob Logan
> bootfs rootpool/rootfs does "grep zfs /mnt/etc/vfstab" look like: rootpool/rootfs- / zfs - no - (bet it doesn't... edit like above and reboot) or second guess (well, third :-) is your theory that can be checked with: zpool import rootpool zpool import datap

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
the root pool mounts fine - if I do: zpool import rootpool zpool get bootfs rootpool mkdir /mnt mount -F zfs rootpool/rootfs it mounts fine /etc/zfs/zpool.cache exists a zpool get all rootpool gets us: size 19.9 G used 3.67G available 16.2G capacity 18% altroot - health ONLINE guid 157349143

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Rob Logan
> panic[cpu0]/thread=fbc257a0: cannot mount root path /[EMAIL > PROTECTED],0/ when booted from snv_77 type: zpool import rootpool zpool get bootfs rootpool mkdir /mnt mount -F zfs "the bootfs string" /mnt my guess is it will fail... so then do zfs list and find one that will mount,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
After doing that, this is what we see: panic[cpu0]/thread=fbc257a0: cannot mount root path /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/ pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pci1028,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f fbc46790 genunix: rootconf+112 () fbc467e0 genunix:vfs_mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Jason King
Edit the kernel$ line and add '-k' at the end. That should drop you into the kernel debugger after the panic (typing '$q' will exit the debugger, and resume whatever it was doing -- in this case likely rebooting). On Dec 18, 2007 6:26 PM, Michael Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Begin forwa

[zfs-discuss] Fwd: zfs boot suddenly not working

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Hale
Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: December 18, 2007 6:15:12 PM CST To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: zfs boot suddenly not working We have a machine that is configured with zfs boot , Nevada v67- we have two pools, rootpool and datapool. It has be

Re: [zfs-discuss] JBOD performance

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Peter, Tuesday, December 18, 2007, 5:12:48 PM, you wrote: >> Sequential writing problem with process throttling - there's an open >> bug for it for quite a while. Try to lower txg_time to 1s - should >> help a little bit. PS> Yeah, my post was mostly to emphasize that on commodity hardware

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is round-robin I/O correct for ZFS?

2007-12-18 Thread Jonathan Loran
Jonathan Loran wrote: Gary Mills wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:55:10PM -0800, Jonathan Loran wrote: This is the same configuration we use on 4 separate servers (T2000, two X4100, and a V215). We do use a different iSCSI solution, but we have the same multi path config setup with sc

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs snapshot leaking data ?

2007-12-18 Thread Guy
Is there a way to know which blocks changed since the last snapshot ? Is it metadata or something else ? Usually, there is several hundred kilobytes in the last snapshot ? Can you help me please ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is round-robin I/O correct for ZFS?

2007-12-18 Thread Jonathan Loran
Gary Mills wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:55:10PM -0800, Jonathan Loran wrote: This is the same configuration we use on 4 separate servers (T2000, two X4100, and a V215). We do use a different iSCSI solution, but we have the same multi path config setup with scsi_vhci. Dual GigE switc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does Oracle support ZFS as a file system with Oracle RAC?

2007-12-18 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Dec 18, 2007 11:01 AM, David Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know this? There are multiple file system usages involved in Oracle RAC: 1) Oracle Home - This is where the oracle software lives. This can be on a file system shared among all nodes or a per-host file system.

Re: [zfs-discuss] JBOD performance

2007-12-18 Thread Peter Schuller
> Sequential writing problem with process throttling - there's an open > bug for it for quite a while. Try to lower txg_time to 1s - should > help a little bit. Yeah, my post was mostly to emphasize that on commodity hardware raidz2 does not even come close to being a CPU bottleneck. It wasn't a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does Oracle support ZFS as a file system with Oracle RAC?

2007-12-18 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
David Runyon wrote: > Does anyone know this? > > David Runyon > Disk Sales Specialist > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. > 4040 Palm Drive > Santa Clara, CA 95054 US > Mobile 925 323-1211 > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Russ Lai wrote: >> Dave; >> Does ZFS support Oracle RAC? > __

[zfs-discuss] Does Oracle support ZFS as a file system with Oracle RAC?

2007-12-18 Thread David Runyon
Does anyone know this? David Runyon Disk Sales Specialist Sun Microsystems, Inc. 4040 Palm Drive Santa Clara, CA 95054 US Mobile 925 323-1211 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Russ Lai wrote: > Dave; > Does ZFS support Oracle RAC? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

[zfs-discuss] SAS cabling was Re: aoc-sat2-mv8

2007-12-18 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: ... snip . > That will be very good info to have - there's too little information > and personal experience surrounding the SAS cabling world as yet. Here's a couple of resources: SAS Integrators Guide: wget http://www.lsi.com/documentation/stor

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-code] /usr/bin and /usr/xpg4/bin differences

2007-12-18 Thread John Plocher
Sasidhar Kasturi wrote: > Thank you, > Is it that /usr/bin binaries are more advanced than that of > /xpg4 things or .. the extensions of the /xpg4 things? They *should* be the same level of "advancement", but each has a different set of promises and expectations it needs to live up to..

Re: [zfs-discuss] HA-NFS AND HA-ZFS

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Matthew, Monday, December 17, 2007, 5:45:12 PM, you wrote: MCA> We are currently running sun cluster 3.2 on solaris 10u3. We are MCA> using ufs/vxvm 4.1 as our shared file systems. However, I would MCA> like to migrate to HA-NFS on ZFS. Since there is no conversion MCA> process from UFS to

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-code] /usr/bin and /usr/xpg4/bin differences

2007-12-18 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 22:00 -0800, Sasidhar Kasturi wrote: > If i want to make some modifications in the code.. Can i do it > for /xpg4/bin commands or .. i should do it for /usr/bin commands?? If possible (if there's no inherent conflict with either the applicable standards or existing practice

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is round-robin I/O correct for ZFS?

2007-12-18 Thread Gary Mills
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:55:10PM -0800, Jonathan Loran wrote: > > This is the same configuration we use on 4 separate servers (T2000, two > X4100, and a V215). We do use a different iSCSI solution, but we have > the same multi path config setup with scsi_vhci. Dual GigE switches on > separa

Re: [zfs-discuss] aoc-sat2-mv8

2007-12-18 Thread James C. McPherson
Kent Watsen wrote: > > Kent Watsen wrote: >> So, I picked up an AOC-SAT2-MV8 off eBay for not too much and then I got >> a 4xSATA to one SFF-8087 cable to connect it to one one my six >> backplanes. But, as fortune would have it, the cable I bought has SATA >> connectors that are physically to

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-code] /usr/bin and /usr/xpg4/bin differences

2007-12-18 Thread James Carlson
Sasidhar Kasturi writes: > Is it that /usr/bin binaries are more advanced than that of /xpg4 > things or .. the extensions of the /xpg4 things? No. They're just different. > If i want to make some modifications in the code.. Can i do it for /xpg4/bin > commands or .. i should do it for

[zfs-discuss] aoc-sat2-mv8 (was: LSI SAS3081E = unstable drive numbers?)

2007-12-18 Thread Kent Watsen
Kent Watsen wrote: > So, I picked up an AOC-SAT2-MV8 off eBay for not too much and then I got > a 4xSATA to one SFF-8087 cable to connect it to one one my six > backplanes. But, as fortune would have it, the cable I bought has SATA > connectors that are physically too big to plug into the AOC

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Roadmap - thoughts on expanding raidz / restriping / defrag

2007-12-18 Thread Paul van der Zwan
On 17 Dec 2007, at 11:42, Jeff Bonwick wrote: > In short, yes. The enabling technology for all of this is something > we call bp rewrite -- that is, the ability to rewrite an existing > block pointer (bp) to a new location. Since ZFS is COW, this would > be trivial in the absence of snapshots -

Re: [zfs-discuss] JBOD performance

2007-12-18 Thread Roch - PAE
Frank Penczek writes: > Hi, > > On Dec 17, 2007 4:18 PM, Roch - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The pool holds home directories so small sequential writes to one > > > large file present one of a few interesting use cases. > > > > Can you be more specific here ? > > > > Do