Re: [zfs-discuss] Repairing known bad disk blocks before zfs

2008-04-17 Thread Anton B. Rang
If you don't do background scrubbing, you don't know about bad blocks in advance. If you're running RAID-Z, this means you'll lose data if a block is unreadable and another device goes bad. This is the point of scrubbing, it lets you repair the problem while you still have redundancy. :-)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Repairing known bad disk blocks before zfs encounters them

2008-04-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Brandon, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:23:48 PM, you wrote: BH On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:54 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some code that implements background media scanning so I am able to detect bad blocks well before zfs encounters them. I need a script or something

Re: [zfs-discuss] Panic when ZFS pool goes down?

2008-04-17 Thread Veltror
Having just installed Solaris 10 U5 I was kind of hoping that this was incorporated. This is a showstopper as far as using ZFS in production. This is because all production is based on EMC storage with either a backend RAID1 or RAID5. This is not an issue when systems have dual paths to storage

[zfs-discuss] Is install on zfs mirrored usb sticks possible?

2008-04-17 Thread Fnader
Hi, It is possible to run Solaris from a USB stick, but maybe not recommended since the sticks may have a limited number of writes. It is also possible to have Solaris run from a mirrored disk. Would it be possible to run it from several zfs mirrored USB sticks and thereby: 1) benefit from zfs

[zfs-discuss] Copies Option: Anyone actually seen the end result?

2008-04-17 Thread Austin
I've been trying to figure out how the copies command works and have been experimenting, but I haven't really seen any results (both with 5 physical drives I will soon add to my data pool as a 2nd RAIDZ and on a virtual machine with two RAIDZ in a pool). First: Is data copied across physical

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-17 Thread Ross
I had a brief look into this too. I'm a solaris newbie, but the best solution looked to be tar, or something called Star. Our plan is to use ZFS send/receive to back the data up onto live server storage. But for tape archives I actually want to use a completely different filesystem. If

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will ZFS employ raid0 stripes in an ordinary storage pool?

2008-04-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Richard, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:19:27 PM, you wrote: RE No, not normally. ZFS groups writes to try to do 128kByte writes. RE So in a single 128kByte block, there may be parts of different files. RE By default the transaction group is flushed every 5 seconds, but there RE are many

Re: [zfs-discuss] Copies Option: Anyone actually seen the end result?

2008-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Austin wrote: I've been trying to figure out how the copies command works and have been experimenting, but I haven't really seen any results (both with 5 physical drives I will soon add to my data pool as a 2nd RAIDZ and on a virtual machine with two RAIDZ in a pool). First: Is data copied

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will ZFS employ raid0 stripes in an ordinary storage pool?

2008-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Richard, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 11:19:27 PM, you wrote: RE No, not normally. ZFS groups writes to try to do 128kByte writes. RE So in a single 128kByte block, there may be parts of different files. RE By default the transaction group is flushed every 5

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (AHCI)

2008-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Tim wrote: Along those lines, I'd *strongly* suggest running Jeff's script to pin down whether one drive is the culprit: But that script only tests read speed and Pascal's read performance seems fine. Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL

[zfs-discuss] Solaris 10U5 ZFS features?

2008-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
Even though I am on a bunch of Sun propaganda lists, I have not yet spotted an announcement for Solaris 10U5 even though it is now available for download. Sun's formal web site is useless for comparing what is in different update releases since its notion of What's New is a comparison with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10U5 ZFS features?

2008-04-17 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:51:03PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Even though I am on a bunch of Sun propaganda lists, I have not yet spotted an announcement for Solaris 10U5 even though it is now available for download. Sun's formal web site is useless for comparing what is in different

Re: [zfs-discuss] Confused by compressratio

2008-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Stuart Anderson wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:07:53PM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: Personally, I'd estimate using du rather than ls. They report the exact same number as far as I can tell. With the caveat that Solaris ls -s returns the number of 512-byte blocks, whereas

Re: [zfs-discuss] Panic when ZFS pool goes down?

2008-04-17 Thread Scott Cromar
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:46:35 PDT From: Veltror [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having just installed Solaris 10 U5 I was kind of hoping that this was incorporated. This is a showstopper as far as using ZFS in production. This is because all production is based on EMC storage with either a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10U5 ZFS features?

2008-04-17 Thread Rob Windsor
A Darren Dunham wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:51:03PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Can someone please post a summary of any new ZFS features or significant fixes which are in Solaris 10U5? I'm guessing it has some changes/fixes applied, but I don't know of any significant feature

[zfs-discuss] zfs mount i/o error and workarounds

2008-04-17 Thread Joe Little
Hello list, We discovered a failed disk with checksum errors. Took out the disk and resilvered, which reported many errors. A few of my subvolumes to the pool won't mount anymore, with zfs import poolname reporting that cannot mount 'poolname/proj': I/O error Ok, we have a problem. I can

[zfs-discuss] lots of small, twisty files that all look the same

2008-04-17 Thread Bill Sprouse
A customer has a zpool where their spectral analysis applications create a ton (millions?) of very small files that are typically 1858 bytes in length. They're using ZFS because UFS consistently runs out of inodes. I'm assuming that ZFS aggregates these little files into recordsize (128K?)