Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Ross
Thinking about it, I think Darren is right. An automatic send/receive to the external drive may be preferable, and it sounds like it has many advantages: 1. It's directional, your backups will always go from your live drive to the backup, never the other way unless you actually force it with

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-17 Thread Ross
Err... you can't remove drives that are in use, but for what you're describing can't you just use zfs replace and then remove the old drive? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Ross
In fact, thinking about it, could this be more generic than just a USB backup service? If this were a scheduled backup system, regularly sending snapshots to another device, with a nice end user GUI, there's nothing stopping it working with any device the user points it at. So you could use

[zfs-discuss] renamemount problem

2008-12-17 Thread PG
hi all, I've got here a box with zfs and /var on rpool/ROOT/snv/var I wanted to rename it to rpool/var and made sure that canmount=on but it didn't mount after reboot. what else do I need to change? thanks, Philip -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-17 Thread Daniel
It is unfortunately that you ask this question after you've installed the new disks; now both the old and the new disks are part of the same zpool. That's awesome, I did not know that this would work. I'm glad I made this post. I actually have not yet replaced any drive, in fact, this very

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:05:50AM -0800, Ross wrote: Thinking about it, I think Darren is right. An automatic send/receive to the external drive may be preferable, and it sounds like it has many advantages: You forgot *the* most important advantage of using send/recv instead of mirroring as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Niall Power
What serious compat issues ? There has been one and only one incompatible change in the stream format and that only impacted really really early (before S10 FCS IIRC) adopters. Here are the issues that I am aware: - Running zfs upgrade on a zfs filesystem will cause the zfs send stream

Re: [zfs-discuss] Easiest way to replace a boot disk with a larger one?

2008-12-17 Thread Tim
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM, cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Alex, Sorry, I missed the 1.5 TB disk/boot issue previously. A project is underway to provide booting for disks that are large than 1 TB. This project is outside of a future project to provide booting from an EFI-labeled

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and aging

2008-12-17 Thread Tim
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Johan Hartzenberg jhart...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Thanos McAtos mca...@ics.forth.grwrote: My problems are 2: 1) I don't know how to properly age a file-system. As already said, I need traces of a decade's workload to properly do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 08:51:54AM -0800, Niall Power wrote: What serious compat issues ? There has been one and only one incompatible change in the stream format and that only impacted really really early (before S10 FCS IIRC) adopters. Here are the issues that I am aware: -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Ross
Hey Niall, Here are the issues that I am aware: - Running zfs upgrade on a zfs filesystem will cause the zfs send stream output format to be incompatible with older versions of the software. This is according to the zfs man page. - Again from the zfs man page: The format of the stream is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-17 Thread Niall Power
In the long run some USB stick problems may surface because the wearbr leveling is done in 16MB sections, and you could blow your stick ifbr you have a 16MB region which is ``hot#39;#39;. nbsp;I wonder if parts of a zpoolbr are hotter than others? nbsp;With AVS the dirty bitmap might be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and aging

2008-12-17 Thread Thanos McAtos
I followed Anton's idea but didn't see any difference. My tests were repetitive PostMark runs, and each run was different. For instance, I didn't let PostMark delete the files once it finished, deleted the odd numbered ones by hand, put the rest in a different directory, re-run PostMark that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and aging

2008-12-17 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Thanos McAtos mca...@ics.forth.gr wrote: My problems are 2: 1) I don't know how to properly age a file-system. As already said, I need traces of a decade's workload to properly do this, and to the best of my knowledge there is no easy way to do this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and SAN Arrays

2008-12-17 Thread zfs user
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Reed Gregory wrote: 8 Hardware RAID-5 Groups ( 5 drives each) and 2 SAN hot spares. zraid of these 8 Raid Groups. ~ 14TB usable. I did read in a FAQ that doing double redundancy is not recommended since parity would have to be calculated twice.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Easiest way to replace a boot disk with a larger one?

2008-12-17 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:57:37PM -0600, Tim wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM, cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Alex, Sorry, I missed the 1.5 TB disk/boot issue previously. A project is underway to provide booting for disks that are large than 1 TB. This project is outside

[zfs-discuss] Destroying a zfs dataset

2008-12-17 Thread Grant Lowe
I'm having a very difficult time destroying a zone. Here's the skinny: bash-3.00# zfs get origin | grep d01 r12_data/d01 origin r12_data/d01/.clone.12052...@12042008 - r12_data/d01-receive origin- -