Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Richard Elling
[richard tries pushing the rope one more time] On Mar 21, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] >> >> There is no direct correlation between the number of blocks and resilver >> time. > > Incorrect. > > Although there are possibly

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] > > There is no direct correlation between the number of blocks and resilver > time. Incorrect. Although there are possibly some cases where you could be bandwidth limited, it's certainly not true in general. If Richard were correct, then

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Erik Trimble
On 3/21/2011 3:25 PM, Richard Elling wrote: On Mar 21, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling How many times do we have to rehash this? The speed of resilver is dependent on

Re: [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10

2011-03-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 3/21/2011 2:59 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: I *hate* talking about unreleased product schedules :). but I think you can expect a beta with a month or two, perhaps less. We've already got an alpha that we've handed out in limited quantities. Actually, I read about that alpha; one of my cow

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 21, 2011, at 5:32 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey >> >> it depends on the total number of used blocks that must >> be resilvered on the resilvering device, multiplied b

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 21, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling >> >> How many times do we have to rehash this? The speed of resilver is >> dependent on the amount of data, the distribu

Re: [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10

2011-03-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 3/18/2011 6:32 PM, David Magda wrote: Oracle has said that they "will distribute updates to approved CDDL or other open source- licensed code following full releases of our enterprise Solaris operating system." http://unixconsole.blogspot.com/2010/08/internal-oracle-memo-leaked-on-solaris.ht

Re: [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10

2011-03-21 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 14:56 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On 3/18/2011 3:15 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > > c) NCP 4 is still 5-6 months away. We're still developing it. > > By the time I do some initial evaluation, then some prototyping, I don't > anticipate migrating anything production wis

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Ian Collins
On 03/22/11 10:39 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: So the conclusion to draw is: Yes, there are situations where ZFS resilver is a strength, and limited by serial throughput. But for what I call "typical" usage patterns, it's a weakness, and it's dramatically much worse than resilvering the whole d

Re: [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10

2011-03-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 3/18/2011 3:15 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: a) Nexenta Core Platform is a bare-bones OS. No GUI, in other words (no X11.) It might well suit you. Indeed :), my servers are headless (well, as headless as you can get on x86 hardware 8-/, they do have an ipmi remote console that still needs to

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus > > Is resilver time related to the amount of data (TBs) or the number > of objects (file + directory counts) ? I have seen zpools with lots of > data in very few files resilver

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> Our main backups storage server has 3x 8-drive raidz2 vdevs. Was > replacing the 500 GB drives in one vdev with 1 TB drives. The last 2 > drives took just under 300 hours each. :( The first couple drives > took approx 150 hours each, and then it just started taking longer and > longer for each dr

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> The 30+ second latency I see on this system during a resilver renders > it pretty useless as a staging server (lots of small snapshots). I've seen similar numbers on a system during resilver, without L2ARC/SLOG. Adding L2ARC/SLOG made the system work quite well during resilver/scrub, but witho

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Ian Collins wrote: >  Has anyone seen a resilver longer than this for a 500G drive in a riadz2 > vdev? > > scrub: resilver completed after 169h25m with 0 errors on Sun Mar 20 19:57:37 > 2011 >              c0t0d0  ONLINE       0     0     0  769G resilvered > > an

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Paul Kraus
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > >> On 03/20/11 08:57 PM, Ian Collins wrote: >>> Has anyone seen a resilver longer than this for a 500G drive in a riadz2 >>> vdev? >>> >>> scrub: resilver completed after 169h25m with 0 erro

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey > > it depends on the total number of used blocks that must > be resilvered on the resilvering device, multiplied by the access time for > the resilvering device. It is a s

Re: [zfs-discuss] A resilver record?

2011-03-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling > > How many times do we have to rehash this? The speed of resilver is > dependent on the amount of data, the distribution of data on the resilvering > device, speed of the resil

Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based-NFS

2011-03-21 Thread Fred Liu
Thanks. But does noacal work with nfs v3? Thanks. Fred > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Hanover [mailto:chano...@umich.edu] > Sent: 星期四, 三月 17, 2011 1:34 > To: Fred Liu > Cc: ZFS Discussions > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] GNU 'cp -p' can't work well with ZFS-based- > NFS > > I thought