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What was c5t2 is now c7t1 and what was c4t1 is now c5t2.
Everything seems to be working fine, it's just a bit confusing.
How can I 'fix' this ? Delete /etc/zfs/zpool.cache and reboot ?
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What was c5t2 is now c7t1
no writes since I did the destroy
then I *might* have a chance at this ... HELP!
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be important for large objects randomly updated inside,
like VM disk images and iSCSI backing stores, precreated database
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we really can't disable
them, if we do we run into a different zpool 22 issue where the amount
of RAM we will need to destroy a large snapshot will be more than we
have. This is also fixed with zpool 26.
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chain of two and one chain of three, the
problem occurred on the chain of three)
Not specifically applicable here, but probably related and might be of
use to someone here.
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Thanks, in advance for all of your informed opinions.
P.S. I am sending this to TWO lists, please do NOT respond to the list
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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Edward Ned Harvey
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If you have compression turned on (and I highly recommend turning
in the market. Now, as to sharing futures and NDA
material, that _should_ only be available via direct Oracle channels
(as it was under Sun as well).
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is a 240x2TB (7200RPM) system in 20 Dell MD1200 JBODs. 16 vdevs of 15
disks each -- RAIDZ3. NexentaStor 3.1.2.
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ARC the best case. The real world,
as usual, fell somewhere in between.
Finding a benchmark tool that matches _my_ work load is why I have
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This may fall into the realm of a religious war (I hope not!), but recently
several people on this list have said/implied that ZFS was only acceptable for
production use on FreeBSD (or Solaris, of course) rather than Linux with ZoL.
I'm working on a project at work involving a large(-ish)
9:59am, Richard Elling wrote:
On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Paul Archer wrote:
This may fall into the realm of a religious war (I hope not!), but
recently several people on this list have
said/implied that ZFS was only acceptable for production use on FreeBSD
(or Solaris
11:26am, Richard Elling wrote:
On Apr 25, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Paul Archer wrote:
The point of a clustered filesystem was to be able to spread our data out
among all nodes and still have access
from any node without having to run NFS. Size of the data set (once you
get past
To put it slightly differently, if I used ZoL in production, would I be likely
to experience performance or stability
problems?
I saw one team revert from ZoL (CentOS 6) back to ext on some backup servers
for an application project, the killer was
stat times (find running slow etc.), perhaps
9:08pm, Stefan Ring wrote:
Sorry for not being able to contribute any ZoL experience. I've been
pondering whether it's worth trying for a few months myself already.
Last time I checked, it didn't support the .zfs directory (for
snapshot access), which you really don't want to miss after getting
2:20pm, Richard Elling wrote:
On Apr 25, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Paul Archer wrote:
Interesting, something more complex than NFS to avoid the
complexities of NFS? ;-)
We have data coming in on multiple nodes (with local storage) that is
needed on other multiple nodes. The only
2:34pm, Rich Teer wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Paul Archer wrote:
Simple. With a distributed FS, all nodes mount from a single DFS. With NFS,
each node would have to mount from each other node. With 16 nodes, that's
what, 240 mounts? Not to mention your data is in 16 different
mounts
Tomorrow, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/26/12 10:34 AM, Paul Archer wrote:
That assumes the data set will fit on one machine, and that machine won't
be a
performance bottleneck.
Aren't those general considerations when specifying a file server?
I suppose. But I meant specifically that our data
the application exits will require a restart of the application
with an automounter / NFS approach.
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for an increase in capacity caused
replacement of hard drives. This time I'm not sure if I'll run out of
capacity before the drives reach end of practical service life and
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wondering if there is something about slot 20
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issues with this system, but they
were not related to the J4400).
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On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Weber, Markus f...@de.kpn-eurorings.net
wrote:
Paul wrote:
I have not seen any odd issues with the five J4400 configuration
since we went production.
I'm not familiar with the J4400 at all, but isn't Sun/Oracle using -like
NetAPP-
Interposer cards
make a solid determination of that.
We think what caused the zfs send | zfs recv to be interrupted was
hitting an e1000g Ethernet device driver bug.
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is dreadful, but we _have_ the data in case of
a real disaster.
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that you are looking for _relative_ measures (unless you have a
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amounts of data and snapshots. The 22 vdev zpool is on a production
server with normal I/O activity, the 2 vdev case is only receiving zfs
snapshots and doing no other I/O.
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the files. I run a first rsync to copy all of them, then I
declare a very short outage window and do a final rsync to catch
anything that got changed. I do NOT use the --remove-source-files
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configuration, starting with one unused disk? In the end I
want the three-disk raidz to have the same name (and mount point) as the
original zpool. There must be an easy way to do this.
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makes many products you
could try to use for this). I have been using NBU to backup NG Zones
from the Global for years. Is the version of NBU so old that it does
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to be available is Illumian:
http://www.illumian.org/
It's roughly the same as OpenIndiana but using Debian packaging rather
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with no outage (assuming the drive is in a hot swap capable
enclosure), but as I am not familiar with FreeBSD I do not know what
it is.
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per 10^14 bits (bytes ?) transferred to /
from the drive. Note the sign change on the exponent :-)
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then
fault_details=There is at least one zpool error.
let fault_count=fault_count+1
new_faults[${fault_count}]=${fault_details}
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and only for moving
data physically around, so the lack of ZFS redundancy is not an
issue).
There are over 2300 snapshots on the source side and we were
replicating close to 2000 of them.
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Paul Kraus wrote:
My main reasons for using zfs are pretty basic compared to some here
What are they ? (the reasons for using ZFS)
All technical reasons aside, I can tell you one huge reason I love ZFS
or is growing.
Keep in mind that any type of hardware RAID should report back 0
for both to the OS.
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if I need to (in fact, in the early days of Google Mail
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problem (we tripped over this on
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
2011-10-31 16:28, Paul Kraus wrote:
Oracle has provided a loaner system with 128 GB RAM and it took 75 GB of
RAM
to destroy the problem snapshot). I had not yet posted a summary as we
are still working through the overall
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to the documentation),
so I created RAID0 sets of 2 drives each and ZFS sees 6 x 1TB LUNs.
ZFS then provides my redundancy and data integrity.
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the data).
This was originally reported to me as a problem with ZFS, SAMBA,
or the ACLs I had set up. It is amazing how much _changing_ of data
goes on with no knowledge by the end users.
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On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
Recently someone posted to this list of that _exact_ situation, they loaded
an OS to a pair of drives while a pair of different drives containing an OS
were still attached. The zpool on the first pair ended up not being
elaborate #3? In what situation will it happen?
Thanks.
Fred
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after adding
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stories on this list that I just avoid it).
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is one of the
technologies that has not let me down. Of course, in some cases it has
taken weeks if not months to resolve or work around a bug in the
code, but in all cases the data was recovered.
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the data that had been corrupted on the failing
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c3t5000C5001A5347FEd0 ONLINE 0 0 0
spares
c3t5000C5001A485C88d0AVAIL
c3t5000C50026A0EC78d0AVAIL
errors: No known data errors
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 07:28:02PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:
I have been told by Oracle Support (not first line, but someone
from engineering in response to an escalation) that the code is done
to put aclmode back in, and that an IDR can probably be cut against
the 10U10 kernel
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:13:40PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:
Another potential difference ... I have been told by Oracle Support
(but have not yet confirmed) that just running the latest zfs code
(Solaris 10U10) will disable the aclmode property, even if you do not
upgrade the zpool version
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Paul B. Henson hen...@acm.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:13:40PM -0700, Paul Kraus wrote:
Another potential difference ... I have been told by Oracle Support
(but have not yet confirmed) that just running the latest zfs code
(Solaris 10U10) will disable
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be viable for the
backup server, if we had a spare 20+ TB of storage just sitting
around. Copying off is NOT an option for production due to outage
window _and_ lack of spare 20+ storage :-(
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there, and upgrading the zpool won't
help with legacy snapshots).
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On 9/13/2011 5:07 AM, Paul Kraus wrote:
Patch-ID# 144500-19 is the kernel update that is the kernel from
10U10
Yep, the guy posting on sunmanagers confirmed that was the patch he
installed which broke aclmode.
Did update 10 sneak out under cover of darkness or what? I didn't see
any
/solaris/downloads/index.html
I just tried on a U9 and U10 box. On the U10 system, I did a
simple 'chmod g+s' on a directory with an ACL, and wham, the
ACL vanished. Same operation on U9, and the ACL is preserved.
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Paul B. Henson hen...@acm.org wrote:
Did update 10 sneak out under cover of darkness or what? I didn't see
any announcements or chatter about it, google doesn't find anything, and
the Oracle download site still only shows update 9:
It was supposed
and don't use NFS, maybe you're ok.
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back on status of this new bug
(which looks like an old bug, but the old bug has been fixed in the
patches I'm now running).
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I am having a very odd problem, and so far the folks at Oracle
Support have not provided a working
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Add the following to /etc/system and reboot:
set zfs:zfs_arc_max = bytes
bytes can be decimal or hex (but don't use a scale like 4g). Best to
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the fullness
of this zpool.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
Updates to my problem:
1. The destroy operation appears to be restarting from the same point
after the system hangs and has to be rebooted. Oracle gave me the
following to track progress:
echo '::pgrep
this zpool I hang the system due to
lack of memory (the box has 32 GB of RAM).
Any suggestions how to delete / destroy this incomplete snapshot
without running the system out of RAM ?
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
An additional data point, when i try to do
in sy cs us sy id
0 0 112 8117096 211888 55 46 0 0 425 0 912684 0 0 0 0 976 166 836 0 2 98
0 0 112 8117096 211936 53 51 6 0 394 0 926702 0 0 0 0 976 167 833 0 2 98
ARC size (B): 4065882656
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impact
importing this zpool ?
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I am having a very odd problem, and so far the folks at Oracle
Support have not provided a working solution, so I am asking the crowd
here while still pursuing it via Oracle Support
of the group@ entry.
So I think the implementation of both a discard and deny aclmode
would need to incorporate the ability to modify the parts of the mode
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that might be allowed by the
ACL, without any consideration of deny entries or group memberships.
Is this description different than how the mode bits are currently
derived when a ZFS acl is set on an object?
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Operating
, but that would be considerably more difficult
to achieve 8-/.
If illumos would be willing to consider integrating a change like this,
I would like to discuss the technical details and determine the best
possible implementation.
Thanks...
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be OK ?
[Not applicable to the root zpool, will the OS installation utility do
the right thing ?]
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady
?
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company (
http://www.sloctheater.org/ )
- Technical Advisor, RPI Players
data. You may have to force an operation since you did not
detach the zone.
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company
.
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{1-2-3-4-5-6-7-}
Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company (
http://www.sloctheater.org/ )
- Technical Advisor, RPI Players
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company (
http://www.sloctheater.org/ )
- Technical Advisor, RPI Players
to around 20 MB/sec...
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{1-2-3-4-5-6-7-}
Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company (
http://www.sloctheater.org/ )
- Technical Advisor, RPI
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