Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Truhn, Chad wrote: > > I am not disagreeing with this, but isn't this the opposite test from what > Ned asked? You can send from an old version (6) to a new version (28), > but I don't believe you can send the other way from the new version (28) to > receive on th

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

>On 12/14/12 10:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) >wrote: >> Is that right? You can't use zfs send | zfs receive to send from a newer >> version and receive on an older version? >> That is my experience. If you do a zfs upgrade on the sending machine, the rece

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On 12/14/12 10:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: Is that right? You can't use zfs send | zfs receive to send from a newer version and receive on an older version? No. You can, with recv, override any property in the sending stream that can be set from t

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bob Netherton > > At this point, the only thing would be to use 11.1 to create a new pool at > 151's > version (-o version=) and top level dataset (-O version=). Recreate the file > system h

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On 13 December, 2012 - Jan Owoc sent me these 1,0K bytes: > Hi, > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM, sol wrote: > > Hi > > > > I've just tried to use illumos (151a5) import a pool created on solaris > > (11.1) but it failed with an error about the pool being incompatible. > > > > Are we now at

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Perhaps slightly elegant, you can do the new pool/rsync thing on the 11.1 live CD so you don't actually have to stand up a new system to do this. Assuming this is x86 and VirtualBox works on Illumos, you could fire up a VM to do this as well. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

At this point, the only thing would be to use 11.1 to create a new pool at 151's version (-o version=) and top level dataset (-O version=). Recreate the file system hierarchy and do something like an rsync. I don't think there is anything more elegant, I'm afraid. That's what I did yesterd

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bob Netherton wrote: > On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: >> Yes, that is correct. The last version of Solaris with source code >> used zpool version 28. This is the last version that is readable by >> non-Solaris operating systems FreeBSD, GNU/Linux,

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

That is a touch misleading. This has always been the case since S10u2. You have to create the pool AND the file systems at the oldest versions you want to support. I maintain a table of pool and version numbers on my blog (blogs.oracle. com/bobn) for this very purpose. I got lazy the othe

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Hi, On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM, sol wrote: > Hi > > I've just tried to use illumos (151a5) import a pool created on solaris > (11.1) but it failed with an error about the pool being incompatible. > > Are we now at the stage where the two prongs of the zfs fork are pointing in > incompatible

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Oracle effectively forked ZFS with the release of Solaris 11 by not open-sourcing any of the ZFS code. Solaris 11 includes ZFSv31 or higher. The last open-source release of ZFS was ZFSv28. Thus, if you create a pool on Solaris 11+ that you want to import on other systems, you have to manually te

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Hi I've just tried to use illumos (151a5)  import a pool created on solaris (11.1) but it failed with an error about the pool being incompatible. Are we now at the stage where the two prongs of the zfs fork are pointing in incompatible directions? > > From: Ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-01-16 23:29, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:53 AM, sol mailto:a...@yahoo.com>> wrote: I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- and current-members of the zfs team, in the sense that the people who created zfs but then left Oracle

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Thanks for that, Matt, very reassuring  :-) > > There is plenty of good will between everyone who's worked on ZFS -- current > Oracle employees, former employees, and those never employed by Oracle.  We > would all like to see all implementations of ZFS be the

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:53 AM, sol wrote: > > I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- > and current-members of the zfs team, in the sense that the people who > created zfs but then left Oracle still care about it enough to want the > Oracle version to be as bug-

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Tim Cook wrote: > Speaking of illumos, what exactly is the deal with the zfs discuss mailing > list? There's all of 3 posts that show up for all of 2011. Am I missing > something, or is there just that little traction currently? > http://www.listbox.com/member/archi

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:53 AM, sol wrote: > >> if a bug fixed in Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, > >> it would likely never get fixed in Solaris either > > > > > > :-( > > > > I would have liked to think that there was some go

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, sol wrote: >> if a bug fixed in Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, >> it would likely never get fixed in Solaris either > > :-( > > I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- and > current-members of the zfs team, in t

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:53 AM, sol wrote: >> if a bug fixed in Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, >> it would likely never get fixed in Solaris either > > > :-( > > I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- and > current-members of the zfs team, in t

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

> if a bug fixed in Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, > it would likely never get fixed in Solaris either :-( I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- and current-members of the zfs team, in the sense that the people who created zfs but then le

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3 Jan 12, at 04:22 , Darren J Moffat wrote: > On 12/28/11 06:27, Richard Elling wrote: >> On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Tim Cook wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Nico Williams >>> wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Frank Cusack

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On 12/28/11 06:27, Richard Elling wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Nico Williams wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two zpools will report the same

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, sol wrote: >> Richard Elling wrote: >>> many of the former Sun ZFS team >>> regularly contribute to ZFS through the illumos developer community. >> >> Does this mean that if they provide a bug fix via illumos t

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, sol wrote: > Richard Elling wrote: >> many of the former Sun ZFS team >> regularly contribute to ZFS through the illumos developer community. > > Does this mean that if they provide a bug fix via illumos then the fix won't > make it into the Oracle code? If you're

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

Richard Elling wrote: > many of the former Sun ZFS team  > regularly contribute to ZFS through the illumos developer community.   Does this mean that if they provide a bug fix via illumos then the fix won't make it into the Oracle code? ___ zfs-discu

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two > > zpools will report the same version yet be incompatible acros

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two > > zpools will report the same version yet be incompatible across > > implementations? > > Not likely: the Illu

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two > zpools will report the same version yet be incompatible across > implementations? Not likely: the Illumos community has developed a method for managing ZFS extensions i

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Frank Cusack wrote: > So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two > zpools will report the same version yet be incompatible across > implementations? I hope not. :-( ISTR some super-secret, behind-closed-doors ZFS steering commitee being establis

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

So with a de facto fork (illumos) now in place, is it possible that two zpools will report the same version yet be incompatible across implementations? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/z

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > > If I "upgrade" ZFS to use the new features in Solaris 11 I will be unable to > import my pool using the free ZFS implementation that is available in illumos > based d

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On 12/27/11 09:20 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > > If I "upgrade" ZFS to use the new features in Solaris 11 I will be > unable to import my pool using the free ZFS implementation that is > available in illumos based d

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > >> If I "upgrade" ZFS to use the new features in Solaris 11 I will be unable >> to import my pool using the free ZFS implementation that is available in >> illumos base

[zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

If I "upgrade" ZFS to use the new features in Solaris 11 I will be unable > to import my pool using the free ZFS implementation that is available in > illumos based distributions > Is that accurate? I understand if the S11