Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-10 Thread Günther
hello what i'm thinking about is: keep it simple 1. i'm really happy to throw away all sort of tapes. when you need them, they are not working, are to slow ore capacity is too small. use hd*s instead. they are much faster, bigger, cheaper and data are much safer on it. for example a external

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-09 Thread rwalists
On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: Assume your machine has died the True Death, and you are starting with new disks (and, at least a similar hardware setup). I'm going to assume that you named the original snapshot 'rpool/ROOT/whate...@today' (1) Boot off the OpenSolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-08 Thread Svein Skogen
Let's say for a moment I should go for this solution, with the rpool tucked away on an usb-stick in the same case as the LTO-3 tapes it matches timelinewise (I'm using HP C8017A kits) as a zfs send -R to a file on the USB stick. (If, and that's a big if, I get amanda or bacula to do a job I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-08 Thread erik.ableson
On 8 mars 2010, at 11:33, Svein Skogen wrote: Let's say for a moment I should go for this solution, with the rpool tucked away on an usb-stick in the same case as the LTO-3 tapes it matches timelinewise (I'm using HP C8017A kits) as a zfs send -R to a file on the USB stick. (If, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-08 Thread Erik Trimble
Svein Skogen wrote: Let's say for a moment I should go for this solution, with the rpool tucked away on an usb-stick in the same case as the LTO-3 tapes it matches timelinewise (I'm using HP C8017A kits) as a zfs send -R to a file on the USB stick. (If, and that's a big if, I get amanda or

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-08 Thread Svein Skogen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.03.2010 13:55, Erik Trimble wrote: Svein Skogen wrote: Let's say for a moment I should go for this solution, with the rpool tucked away on an usb-stick in the same case as the LTO-3 tapes it matches timelinewise (I'm using HP C8017A kits)

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something along the lines of zfs send (when device goes full) returning send suspended. To resume insert new media and issue zfs resume IDNUMBER and receive handling: zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Erik Trimble
Svein Skogen wrote: And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something along the lines of zfs send (when device goes full) returning send suspended. To resume insert new media and issue zfs resume IDNUMBER and

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? Please see Darren's post, pasted below. -Original Message- From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Darren Mackay

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? See Darren's post, regarding mkfifo. The purpose is to enable you to use normal backup tools that support changing tapes, to backup your zfs send to multiple split tapes. I wonder though - During a restore,

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Erik Trimble
Svein Skogen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2010 13:18, Erik Trimble wrote: Svein Skogen wrote: And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something along the lines of zfs send

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
Just disregard this thread. I'm resolving the issue using other methods (not including Solaris). //Svein -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What a

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Meilicke
To be clear, you can do what you want with the following items (besides your server): (1) OpenSolaris LiveCD (1) 8GB USB Flash drive As many tapes as you need to store your data pools on. Make sure the USB drive has a saved stream from your rpool. It should also have a downloaded copy of

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread valrh...@gmail.com
Does this work with dedup? If you have a deduped pool and send it to a file, will it reflect the smaller size, or will this rehydrate things first? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Ian Collins
valrh...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work with dedup? Does what work? Context, Please! (I'm reading this on webmail with limited history..) If you have a deduped pool and send it to a file, will it reflect the smaller size, or will this rehydrate things first? That depends on the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:28 PM, valrh...@gmail.com valrh...@gmail.comwrote: Does this work with dedup? If you have a deduped pool and send it to a file, will it reflect the smaller size, or will this rehydrate things first? zfs send without any options will send the normal (ie non-deduped or

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2010 13:18, Erik Trimble wrote: Svein Skogen wrote: And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something along the lines of zfs send (when device goes full)

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 04/03/2010 21:28, valrh...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work with dedup? If you have a deduped pool and send it to a file, will it reflect the smaller size, or will this rehydrate things first? See zfs(1M) for the description of the -D flag to 'zfs send'. -- Darren J Moffat

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread valrh...@gmail.com
How does this work with an incremental backup? Right now, I do my incremental backup with: zfs send -R -i p...@snapshot1 p...@snapshot2 | ssh r...@192.168.1.200 zfs receive -dF destination_pool Does it make sense to put a -D in there, and if so, where? THanks! -- This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:33 AM, Svein Skogen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2010 13:18, Erik Trimble wrote: Svein Skogen wrote: And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something