Robin Becker wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Pelletier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Robin Becker wrote:
> >>
> ...
> >I belive all reference to xslt methods has been removed. Python methods
> >will be part of the 2.3 release, and Perl methods are mentioned in the
> >book as
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Pelletier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Robin Becker wrote:
>>
...
>I belive all reference to xslt methods has been removed. Python methods
>will be part of the 2.3 release, and Perl methods are mentioned in the
>book as being a component add on that must be
Robin Becker wrote:
>
> I agree about the numbering, but even more I would like to know which
> version of Zope the book is supposed to be about.
When it hits the shelves, it will be about 2.3. After that, we will
maintain the book to be in sync with the current release according to
the as-ye
"Jan H. Haul" wrote:
>
> The point is that we should be able to give meaningful feedback,
> like "page 147, line 15: there should be their" (a totally
> made-up example, do not go hunting for that one).
> It just does not do to quote full sentences and have the
> copyeditor search for all that st
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan H. Haul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Fred Yankowski wrote:
>>
>> I agree completely that the Zope Book beta will get more reviewers,
>> and better feedback to the authors, if it is available as PDF.
>
>A valid point.
>I do not care about the format that much.
Simon Coles wrote:
>
> >I wholeheartedly agree with Jason and Chris. I would very much appreciate a
> >PDF version that could be easily printed, or read with Adobe's Reader.
>
> If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat (you have to pay for
> it, as opposed to the free Reader) you can "Captu
Fred Yankowski wrote:
>
> I agree completely that the Zope Book beta will get more reviewers,
> and better feedback to the authors, if it is available as PDF.
A valid point.
I do not care about the format that much. But what I care about
is a clear method of referencing the text, to the line o
- Original Message -
From: Michel Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Just as open source benefits from real-time peer review, so do
manuscripts
> > get better when fresh eyes and minds and go over them.
> >
> > How about 'releasing' a PDF / HTML Doc with header/footers clearly
marked:
> >
Jason Cunliffe wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > Not yet. I think that O'Reilly doesn't want us to produce any more
> > > public versions of the book until it is published. I'm double checking
> > > with them right now. Take a look at the c
Tim Lynch wrote:
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with Jason and Chris. I would very much appreciate a
> PDF version that could be easily printed, or read with Adobe's Reader. I hope
> there is no hesitation over making a PDF version available because of fear it
> will cut into sales of the bound volum
Fred Yankowski wrote:
>
> I agree completely that the Zope Book beta will get more reviewers,
> and better feedback to the authors, if it is available as PDF.
I agree, but this is completely out of our hands and we must focus more
on content issues at this point then distribution issues. All of
>I wholeheartedly agree with Jason and Chris. I would very much appreciate a
>PDF version that could be easily printed, or read with Adobe's Reader.
If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat (you have to pay for
it, as opposed to the free Reader) you can "Capture" web pages into a
PDF. I cr
I agree completely that the Zope Book beta will get more reviewers,
and better feedback to the authors, if it is available as PDF. The
authors of the "Planning Extreme Programming" book made their draft
available as a PDF well in advance of publication and got lots of
thoughtful feedback as a res
I wholeheartedly agree with Jason and Chris. I would very much appreciate a
PDF version that could be easily printed, or read with Adobe's Reader. I hope
there is no hesitation over making a PDF version available because of fear it
will cut into sales of the bound volume. I think it would be jus
"Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Kinda tough to check out/read/find mistakes in a book that's only
> > available as a set of html pages that aren't full text searchable
>
> This is a really good point
- Original Message -
From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Not yet. I think that O'Reilly doesn't want us to produce any more
> > public versions of the book until it is published. I'm double checking
> > with them right now. Take a look at the copyright verbage on each book
> > pag
Amos Latteier wrote:
>
> Chris Withers wrote:
> >
> > There a PDF of it anywhere?
>
> Not yet. I think that O'Reilly doesn't want us to produce any more
> public versions of the book until it is published. I'm double checking
> with them right now. Take a look at the copyright verbage on each bo
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> > That was a joke. Sorry.
>
> Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already
> annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater
> potential harm to to the number of sales
At 10/31/00 11:08 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
>For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of
>the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual
>howto-collection, and I'm using them both.
Wolfgang - How about putting up your HTML help version of the
howto-collection? Th
l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Amos Latteier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
| On 31 Oct 2000, at 12
On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> That was a joke. Sorry.
Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already
annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater
potential harm to to the number of sales of a printed book.With a
good pdf file, I can get to my lo
Hello
Congratulations on getting the book to this stage!!
It is very readable and I hope it is well promoted, and well received.
One obvious presentation improvement I suggest is that you make ALL zope
code references in the same typographic style.
For example throughout most of the text you s
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> There a PDF of it anywhere?
No, we won't produce one until the book goes to an open content license
when it hits the shelf.
-Michel
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> Michel Pelletier wrote:
> >
> > Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> > Zop
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
>
> On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote:
>
> > I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is
> > printed.
>
> It's gone.
>
> > I'll recheck with them.
>
> No need to.
>
> But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and g
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Pelletier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
>Zope Book Beta. This is the complete, technical draft of the book with
>all screenshots (but minus illustrations, those are on there way!).
>Some o
Chris Withers wrote:
>
> There a PDF of it anywhere?
Not yet. I think that O'Reilly doesn't want us to produce any more
public versions of the book until it is published. I'm double checking
with them right now. Take a look at the copyright verbage on each book
page to see what I'm talking about
On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote:
> I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is
> printed.
It's gone.
> I'll recheck with them.
No need to.
But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to
your friends as christmas gifts, folks,
Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2000, 17:32 Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> >
> > Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> > Zope Book Beta. [...]
>
> Great!
>
> For my own use, I'Ve just created a fully indexed MS-Windows
> HTMHelp-Version, see http://www.zop
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Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
| Phil Harris wrote:
| >
| > Give me a few hours and I'll be knocking out the eBook and PDF versions.
| >
t;Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
>
> > There a PDF of it anywhere?
> >
> >
, October 31, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
> There a PDF of it anywhere?
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> Michel Pelletier wrote:
> >
> > Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> > Zope Book Beta. This is
There a PDF of it anywhere?
cheers,
Chris
Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> Zope Book Beta. This is the complete, technical draft of the book with
> all screenshots (but minus illustrations, those are on there way!).
> Some othe
31. Oktober 2000 10:58
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
>
>
> On 30 Oct 2000, 17:32 Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> >
> > Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> > Zope Book Beta. [...
On 30 Oct 2000, 17:32 Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
> Zope Book Beta. [...]
Great!
For my own use, I'Ve just created a fully indexed MS-Windows
HTMHelp-Version, see http://www.zope.org/Members/strobl, that I
want to share
Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the
Zope Book Beta. This is the complete, technical draft of the book with
all screenshots (but minus illustrations, those are on there way!).
Some other things like a colophon and information about the authors is
missing. The bet
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