[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 10 Nov 2007, at 14:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If we have software which can generate the pacakge index at a URL for a KGS, then it could certainly generate a 'version.cfg' as well, to support buildout. We already do. Stephan's zope.release does that already. The file is actually available t

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Tres Seaver wrote: > A KGS needs to have the following properties: > > - The "generation zero" of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. Yes, luckily we are far beyond that point. > - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a "draft" version >which is an

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: >> A KGS needs to have the following properties: >> >> - The "generation zero" of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. >> >> - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a "draft" version

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 1:06 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, I am already correctly branching the zope.release package. It contains > the controlled-packages.cfg. Using the scripts in zope.release, it is trivial > to render versions.cfg; I mean as in: ./bin/generate-versions > > I h

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 10 November 2007, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Nov 10, 2007 12:52 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I personally do not think that this is a good idea, I am open to > > the suggestion to fix the KGS versions for a particular Zope 3.4 release. > > For example, inst

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 12:52 PM, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I personally do not think that this is a good idea, I am open to the > suggestion to fix the KGS versions for a particular Zope 3.4 release. For > example, instead of having just a versions.cfg, we can expand the scripts t

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Roger Ineichen wrote: > > Hi Tres > > > >> Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need > >> to release "real" updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 > >> should be released using them. > >> > >> DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! > > > > A

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Nov 10, 2007 10:02 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sympathize with this thinking, but as far as I understood Jim and > Stephan last night, there seems to be the goal to make a KGS for a whole > stable release branch, e.g. "Zope3.4", and keep on adding bugfix > releas

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The "generation zero" of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a "draft" version which is an empty layer over version N-1. Changes to the draft then shadow any version

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Roger Ineichen wrote: >> Hi Tres >> >>> Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need >>> to release "real" updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 >>> should be released using them. >>> >>> DEATH TO FAUX PACKA

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] So you're telling me that in order to define my own KGS (which anybody should do for a serious project), I'll have to start deploying my own index. For each project? I think Grok should be using KGS by simply taking snapshots of it sometimes and then bu

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Martijn Faassen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release "real" updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand, this does not happen if you depend on a KGS, right? Does th

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It can't because you guys broke a dozen packages when you split up some of the zope.app.* packages. I'm going to fix this now. Can we stop pointing fingers, please? Sorry for not sugar coating the facts. I gl

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > It can't because you guys broke a dozen packages when you split up some > of the zope.app.* packages. I'm going to fix this now. Can we stop pointing fingers, please? I just spent 3-4 man-weeks to get the packages to a decent state,

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release "real" updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand, this does not