Well said Paul, and, I would like to point out that at the time MS became interested 
in Internet technologies, Macintosh servers accounted for 34% of all webservers, with 
the lions share going to various *nix platforms. That that has changed in favor of 
Windows solutions does not really mean that's the way things will stay. It changed 
before; It will change again.

OSX a threat to Enterprise server architecture? Only if Apple opens the OS to play on 
other HW or starts making enterprise servers. But, individually, they are finely 
crafted machines and generally ahead of the market on innovations. Discounting them 
out of hand (or habit) can make you look like the geek that propheted a fast death for 
Linux...

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hosking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Justin Kremer'
Subject: RE: Apple vs. MS - more secure?


I think Apple should get an award.  I can't think of anyone else in
recent history who has better furthered the state of flame wars.  Not
only can we draw on "MacOS vs. Windows" but Apple has managed to include
all the Unix guys too.  Woohoo. :)

All kidding (and potential flames, I hope) aside...

On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 19:33, Bejon Parsinia wrote:
> I think the comparison you are drawing is unfair because we are talking
> about two OS' that are not even on the same playing field.  MS is a HUGE
> hacking target because of it's availability on the Internet.  How many
> websites do you know are hosted publicly on a Mac platform?  How many
> enterprises run Mac as a Server/Workstation solution exclusively?

I would have to disagree on this point.  In this day and age, the vast
majority of desktop machines are online.  And as various broadband
services become more available and popular, these connections are 24/7. 
On reasonably fat pipes.  Whether the platform is used as an enterprise
server is an almost moot point (ignoring the question of whether WinXP
is any more an "enterprise solution" than OSX).

The fact is, these workstations are potential targets.  They can become
liabilities to the enterprise (or even the home user).  Nimda and
CodeRed points to well-known object lessons.  A very large amount of the
traffic/damage created by these worms were not from unpatched servers,
but insecure workstations.

If you network your machine, information security should be a concern.

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